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    Re: Germanwings Airbus A320 crashes in French Alps with 150 people on board: latest

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    "reports that a senior military official involved in the investigation described “very smooth, very cool” conversation between the two pilots during the early part of the flight from Barcelona to Dusseldorf.

    The audio then seems to reveal one of the pilots left the cockpit and was unable to get back in.

    “The guy outside is knocking lightly on the door and there is no answer,” the investigator said. “And then he hits the door stronger and no answer. There is never an answer.”

    "The last communication was a routine request to continue on its route, said Remi Jouty, the head of the accident investigation bureau, or BEA.

    Then minutes later, at 10:30am, the Airbus A320 inexplicably began to descend. Within 10 minutes it had plunged some 32,000 feet from its cruising altitude of 38,000 feet, slamming into the remote mountainside at an altitude just above 6,000 feet, Jouty said.

    With no distress call or other indication of anything out of the ordinary, French investigators struggled to solve the mystery. While alarming, the descent was still gradual enough to suggest the plane was under the control of its navigators. "




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    "At the crash site, a senior official working on the investigation said, workers found the casing of the plane’s other black box, the flight data recorder, but the memory card containing data on the plane’s altitude, speed, location and condition was not inside, apparently having been thrown loose or destroyed by the impact."

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    Re: Germanwings Airbus A320 crashes in French Alps with 150 people on board: latest

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    " p.m. ET: Transponder data shows that the autopilot on Germanwings Flight 9525 was reprogrammed by someone in the cockpit to change the plane's altitude from 38,000 feet to 100 feet, according to Flightradar24, a website that tracks aviation data.

    • 5:14 p.m. ET: Police searched Germanwings Flight 9525 co-pilot Andreas Lubitz's apartment in Dusseldorf, Germany, on Thursday, the city's police spokesman said in televised comments. A team of five investigators went "through the apartment looking for clues as to what the co-pilot's motivation might have been, if he did indeed bring the plane down," police spokesman Markus Niesczery said."


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    "Lubitz took a break in training in 2009 for several months. He was later..." [From Burnout or depression]


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    Re: Germanwings Airbus A320 crashes in French Alps with 150 people on board: latest

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    "As at least four airliners implement the “rule of two” people in the cockpit at all times, my colleague Holly Watt examines European and American air safety rules in the wake of the Germanwings crash.



    The US Federal Aviation Authority said in a statement: “US airlines have to develop procedures that the FAA approves. Those procedures include a requirement that, when one of the pilots exits the cockpit for any reason, another qualified crew member must lock the door and remain on the flight deck until the pilot returns to his or her station. A qualified crew member could be a flight attendant or a relief pilot serving as part of the crew.”

    Germanwings crash: airliners change cockpit rules after co-pilot blamed

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    Re: Germanwings Airbus A320 crashes in French Alps with 150 people on board: latest

    The latest I've read is that the co-pilot had more significant psychiatric treatment than was first known, that he had recently experienced a "relationship crisis" because of the breakup with a girlfriend, and that as a mass-murderer profile, he may be similar to those who shoot up schools or military bases and then off themselves. In other words, a crazy narcissist who in his twisted mind is going out in a blaze of glory.

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    Re: Germanwings Airbus A320 crashes in French Alps with 150 people on board: latest

    "The co-pilot who flew a Germanwings plane into the Alps killing everyone on board had broken up with his fiancée just one day earlier, it is being reported.

    Andreas Lubitz and his unnamed girlfriend had been together seven years and were due to marry sometime in 2016, according to French media.

    But the day before the tragedy that cost the lives of Lubitz and 149 other people, the relationship was ended, the French TV channel ITélé claims."

    Germanwings plane crash: Andreas Lubitz 'split up with girlfriend one day before tragedy' - Mirror Online


    "The Uniklinik hospital in Dusseldorf confirmed that it had treated Lubitz in recent weeks but said it was not for depression. Meanwhile Bild, the German newspaper, reported that "Lubitz had a serious relationship crisis with his girlfriend before the disaster and the resulting heartbreak is thought to have led to this.
    "Investigators are currently pursuing this line of enquiry with vigour."
    A friend of Lubitz said: "His nickname was 'Tomato Andi' - a reference to his past employment as a flight steward," adding that he worked for nearly a year for Lufthansa as a cabin attendant before being accepted for flight training."

    Andreas Lubitz hid illness: Everything we know on Friday about Germanwings plane crash co-pilot - Telegraph

    "Germanwings pilot Andreas Lubitz bought two brand new cars several weeks ago and was going to give one of them to his girlfriend, it has been claimed.

    Lubitz, 28, purchased the Audis from a dealership on the outskirts of Dusseldorf, near the apartment where he lived with his girlfriend.

    One of the cars had been delivered last weekend, just three days before the tragedy.

    Focus magazine said it was not known whether the car which was delivered last weekend was for Lubitz or his girlfriend.

    However, despite the gift, German media claimed that Lubitz's relationship was in trouble and the couple may have split up.

    This has been seen as a contributory factor to Tuesday's tragedy.



    The woman, who has not been named, is understood to be staying with family while German investigators conduct a full forensic search of the property in Dusseldorf.

    The couple lived in a smart top floor apartment on the outskirts of the city.





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    Re: Germanwings Airbus A320 crashes in French Alps with 150 people on board: latest

    Where is the Bremen Mosque?

    Did Lubitz ever visit an Islamic Mosque?

    Why did Lubitz break up with his apartment mate, girl friend?

    Where did Lubitz get the money to buy two new Audi cars?

    Did Lubitz own a Koran?


    "All evidence indicates that the copilot of Airbus machine in his six-months break during his training as a pilot in Germanwings, converted to Islam and subsequently either by the order of “radical”, ie. devout Muslims , or received the order from the book of terror, the Quran, on his own accord decided to carry out this mass murder. As a radical mosque in Bremen is in the center of the investigation, in which the convert was staying often, it can be assumed that he – as Mohammed Atta, in the attack against New York – received his instructions directly from the immediate"

    GERMAN NEWS REPORT: Co-Pilot of Germanwings Airbus Was MUSLIM CONVERT …’Hero of Islamic State’? | The Gateway Pundit


    "We do know that Lubitz trained at the Lufthansa Flight Training School in Bremen, Germany.

    Bremen is home to the Mosque Masjidu-l-Furqan Mosque:

    This Mosque was raided by the police in December 2014

    BERLIN, Dec 5 (KUNA) — German authorities have closed a mosque in the northern city of Bremen, after it was accused of encouraging youth to join the extremist Islamic State group (known as ISIL), which is carrying out violent killings across Syria and Iraq.

    In unprecedented circumstances, more than 100 German police personnel carried out a search of Masjidu-l-Furqan and its accompanying cultural office, which had both been under police radar since 2007."




    Israel Matzav: Gee, do you think this is relevant? Germanwings co-pilot reported to be a 'recent convert to Islam'






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    Re: Germanwings Airbus A320 crashes in French Alps with 150 people on board: latest

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    "According to German daily Bild, Lubitz had been the recipient of a “specific and regular medical treatment” ever since his bout of depression in 2009.

    He was on medication for an illness at the time of his death according to Fox news.

    A website, Roman Catholic Imperialist.blogspot.com, claimed he was a convert who committed jihad. The report also claimed that Lubitz had a Muslim girlfriend, but it is unclear if she was still dating Lubitz at the time of the crash or if he met the woman through Muslims friends.

    Other news media are reporting that Lubitz had broken off the relationship after he pledged to commit Jihad for Allah. They were supposed to marry next year."

    BREAKING: German Media Site Says Germanwings Co-Pilot Was Muslim Convert



    Is there a significance to the number "96", for Lubitz setting the altitude of the Airbus to 96 Feet?

    Was Lubitz prepared to fight/disable the Captain, had the Pilot re-gained access to the cockpit?





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    Re: Germanwings Airbus A320 crashes in French Alps with 150 people on board: latest

    Quote Originally Posted by Gladiator View Post
    Where is the Bremen Mosque?

    Did Lubitz ever visit an Islamic Mosque?

    Why did Lubitz break up with his apartment mate, girl friend?


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    This notion was based entirely on wild speculation. Literally "there was a mosque in the city where he lived and it had a history of extremism." Literally zero evidence that he ever went there or had any contact with any extremist group.
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    Re: Germanwings Airbus A320 crashes in French Alps with 150 people on board: latest

    I think it's normal to instantly wonder in the aftermath of a tragedy such as this mass murder whether it was the work of terrorists. But it became clear fairly quickly that Lubitz was mentally ill and much sicker than his employers knew. His profile is quiet loner/blaze-of-glory.

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    Re: Germanwings Airbus A320 crashes in French Alps with 150 people on board: latest

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I think it's normal to instantly wonder in the aftermath of a tragedy such as this mass murder whether it was the work of terrorists. But it became clear fairly quickly that Lubitz was mentally ill and much sicker than his employers knew. His profile is quiet loner/blaze-of-glory.
    Apparently US has a rule that there are always two people in the cockpit at all times; Europe didn't have that rule, although they have now put it in place at least temporarily.

    I am sorry the guy was depressed; but bringing down a plane isn't suicide, it's mass murder. Guess he was too depressed to see that.

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