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    Re: Germanwings Airbus A320 crashes in French Alps with 150 people on board: latest

    'Computer evidence made public yesterday in Germany showed Lubitz researched both suicide and the mechanics of cockpit doors in the days before the flight.'

    Germanwings Co-Pilot Set Plane to Go Faster Before Crash - Bloomberg Business

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    Re: Germanwings Airbus A320 crashes in French Alps with 150 people on board: latest

    Quote Originally Posted by katsung47 View Post
    Make up a story like it was real. Was there a video tell you so? What sound it is to show it was automatic pilot to descend the plane?
    The transponder data is recorded by Air Traffic Controllers, periodically as the airplane transmits the altitude of the plane. The air traffic controllers probably write down the altitude of the flight every so often, but either way, the Air Traffic Controllers can look at the transponder reading, and could see that the A 320 was losing altitude. The Air Traffic controllers could not have know why the A 320 was losing altitude, but it was easy to see. The radar on other nearby planes can also read the transponder information, which includes the altitude of the plane.


    "32 p.m. ET: Transponder data shows that the autopilot on Germanwings Flight 9525 was reprogrammed by someone in the cockpit to change the plane’s altitude from 38,000 feet to 100 feet, according to Flightradar24, a website that tracks aviation data.

    Transponder data shows that the autopilot was reprogrammed during the flight by someone inside the cockpit to change the plane’s altitude from 38,000 feet to 100 feet, according to Flightradar24, a website that tracks aviation data.




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    Re: Germanwings Airbus A320 crashes in French Alps with 150 people on board: latest

    Quote Originally Posted by katsung47 View Post
    Make up a story like it was real. Was there a video tell you so? What sound it is to show it was automatic pilot to descend the plane?
    Most airliners only transmit the altitude from their transponders. The Air Traffic Controller sees the altitude read-out on the radar screen, with an enhanced blip of the airliner location, when the transponder is turned on.

    Apparently, for the A320 transponder, there is also a transmission of the intended set altitude, in addition to the actual attitude. Flightradar24 is a website that records transponder info from airliners. FlightRadar24 reported that the information transmitted by the A9525 transponder included the info that the target altitude had been changed.


    "Transponder data shows that the autopilot on Germanwings Flight 9525 was reprogrammed by someone in the cockpit to change the plane's altitude from 38,000 feet to 100 feet, according to Flightradar24, a website that tracks aviation data."

    "It's unknown whether Lubitz planned his actions, Robin said. But he "took advantage" of a moment in which the pilot left the cockpit and "activated the descent," which can only be done deliberately.

    "New details released Thursday appeared to support the startling revelation that someone set the plane on a crash course.

    Transponder data shows that the autopilot was reprogrammed during the flight by someone inside the cockpit to change the plane's altitude from 38,000 feet to 100 feet, according to Flightradar24, a website that tracks aviation data."

    Germanwings plane crash: Co-pilot acted deliberately - CNN.com


    The sound heard on the Cockpit Voice Recorder, when the target Altitude setpoint was changed from 38,000 to 96 Feet, was a soft clicking sound of fingers on a keypad.

    There was a plan to introduce a program into the A320, that would override the pilot's instructions, if a crash with the ground were imminent, the plane would pull up to a safe altitude. This program has not been introduced. Search: "Terrain Avoidance Systems"



    " The technology exists to physically take command away from a pilot to save an aircraft from imminent collision with the ground and is in operation with the U.S. Air Force.

    Developed by NASA, the Air Force and Lockheed Martin, the Automatic Ground Collision Avoidance System (Auto-GCAS), entered service in September 2014 and is already credited with saving at least two F-16s and their crews. A similar automated GCAS system has also been developed by Saab for the JAS-39 Gripen fighter."

    http://aviationweek.com/technology/g...uld-save-lives





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    Re: Germanwings Airbus A320 crashes in French Alps with 150 people on board: latest

    Quote Originally Posted by katsung47 View Post
    Make up a story like it was real. Was there a video tell you so? What sound it is to show it was automatic pilot to descend the plane?
    With the Flight Data Recorder Black Box found, (FDR), there is no need to conjecture on the changing of the setting of the target altitude.


    "Initial tests on the flight data recorder recovered from downed Germanwings Flight 9525 show that co-pilot Andreas Lubitz purposely used the controls to speed up the plane's descent, according to the French air accident investigation agency, the BEA.

    "The initial readout shows that the pilot present in the cockpit used the autopilot to put the (airplane) into a descent towards an altitude of 100 (feet) then, on several occasions during the descent, the pilot modified the autopilot setting to increase the speed of the (airplane) in descent," it said."

    Black box shows co-pilot Lubitz sped up plane's descent - CNN.com




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    Re: Germanwings Airbus A320 crashes in French Alps with 150 people on board: latest

    Quote Originally Posted by Gladiator View Post
    With the Flight Data Recorder Black Box found, (FDR), there is no need to conjecture on the changing of the setting of the target altitude.


    "Initial tests on the flight data recorder recovered from downed Germanwings Flight 9525 show that co-pilot Andreas Lubitz purposely used the controls to speed up the plane's descent, according to the French air accident investigation agency, the BEA.

    "The initial readout shows that the pilot present in the cockpit used the autopilot to put the (airplane) into a descent towards an altitude of 100 (feet) then, on several occasions during the descent, the pilot modified the autopilot setting to increase the speed of the (airplane) in descent," it said."

    Black box shows co-pilot Lubitz sped up plane's descent - CNN.com


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    You are very efficient to get information from your source. As eager as the media to "find" every bit that Lubitz intended to suicide and murder. I just read a comment.

    Re: MH17 - False flag unravels badly
    by Ro Ri » Thu Apr 02,

    The French analyzed and made public the voice recorder evidence from the doomed Germanwings flight in 2 days. But the British have had the voice and flight recorders for MH-17 nearly a year after but nothing is forthcoming!
    How can that be?

    Asia Times Online Forums • View topic - MH17 - False flag unravels badly
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    Re: Germanwings Airbus A320 crashes in French Alps with 150 people on board: latest

    Although many Americans are understandably ignorant of it, the MH17 false flag unraveled badly almost since Day One.

    The False Flag That Failed, as the west tried to frame Russia.

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    Re: Germanwings Airbus A320 crashes in French Alps with 150 people on board: latest

    Quote Originally Posted by Gladiator View Post
    The Airbus 320 is a fly-by-wire airplane. There is no direct control of the elevators, to push the plane into a dive. The elevator is controlled by computer programs. The fastest "Dive" had to take 8 minutes from 38,000 feet.

    Could a passenger have snuck into the cockpit, while the Captain was in the bathroom? Could the intruder have rendered Lubitz unconscious, while the intruder reprogrammed the airliner for a crash?


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    Re: Germanwings Airbus A320 crashes in French Alps with 150 people on board: latest

    Quote Originally Posted by katsung47 View Post
    Make up a story like it was real. Was there a video tell you so? What sound it is to show it was automatic pilot to descend the plane?
    And what video proof do you have for any of your theories?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Germanwings Airbus A320 crashes in French Alps with 150 people on board: latest

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Although many Americans are understandably ignorant of it, the MH17 false flag unraveled badly almost since Day One.

    The False Flag That Failed, as the west tried to frame Russia.
    Once again you jump to blame the USA CT theory based on nothing more than ideological hate and mistrust of govt.
    Maybe one day you will try to actually use evidence to come to your conclusions, you know like rational people.
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    Re: Germanwings Airbus A320 crashes in French Alps with 150 people on board: latest

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Although many Americans are understandably ignorant of it, the MH17 false flag unraveled badly almost since Day One.

    The False Flag That Failed, as the west tried to frame Russia.


    "Russia and the rebels have denied the allegation, instead blaming the Ukrainian government for the attack. Russia is playing no role in the criminal investigation.

    Intercepted conversation

    At a news conference in Rotterdam on Friday, Fred Westerbeke, chief prosecutor for the Dutch national prosecution service, said that the investigation was particularly interested in the origin of 25 pieces of iron, drawn from 500 samples.

    "The most likely scenario was that the plane was shot down from the ground," he said.

    "If we can establish that this iron is coming from such a missile, that is important information of course," he said. "At this moment we don't know that, but that is what we are investigating."




    "Patricia Zorko, of the Dutch national police, said the investigation was also examining the recording of an intercepted conversation discussing the missile attack.

    "The conversation is between rebels who allegedly shot down the plane, but we really need to authenticate it," she said.

    A Dutch safety board report said this week that the plane appeared to have been struck by a number of small fragments - again supporting the theory that a surface-to-air missile was involved.

    The report ruled out mechanical failure or pilot error."

    MH17 crash: Investigation focuses on '25 metal shards' - BBC News


    "Reuters) - Investigators trying to find out who shot down Malaysia Airlines MH17 over eastern Ukraine have recovered 25 pieces of metal from baggage and bodies, which could lead them to the missile believed to have torn apart the airliner.

    Dutch prosecution service chief Fred Westerbeke, who is leading the international inquiry into the July 17 disaster, said the investigation was focusing on the theory that a surface-to-air missile had been used to shoot the plane down.

    The Dutch Safety Board reported on Tuesday that the aircraft appeared to have broken apart due to the impact of a large number of fragments, a conclusion that supported the theory that it had been shot down by a ground-based missile.

    "Patricia Zorko, who is leading a team of more than 100 Dutch police working alongside Australian and Malaysian investigators, said they remained extremely keen to get to the site.

    But she said an appeal to the public in Russian, Ukrainian and English had resulted in 20,000 photos and 750 videos being provided to prosecutors.

    One key clue is a telephone tap, believed to be of Ukrainian separatists discussing the plane's downing, which is also being examined for authenticity, Zorko said."

    Dutch hope metal shards will lead them to missile that hit MH17 | Reuters

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    https://www.politie.nl/themas/flight-mh17.html


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