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    Re: Utah to allow firing squads for executions

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Short rope, long drop - proven effective and even the rope can be reused.
    You gotta get the good rope though not that cheap crap. And too long a drop could decapitate them instead of just breaking their neck clean. I would suggest the expertise to do this efficiently and quickly has long since died out. A bullet it probably easier, cleaner and less fraught with problems.

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    Killers deserve to die.
    Only the most heinous of killers. The worse, most horrible deserve death.

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    It's the difference between justice being served, as opposed to the taking of an innocent life. The murderer takes the life of someone who has done nothing to deserve it. The executor provides the means of justice being served when that innocent life has been taken.
    Well said.
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    Re: Utah to allow firing squads for executions

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    Utah to allow firing squads for executions - CNN.com


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    Why not use the Chinese method- Shot to the back of the head, or a 22 cal, thru the ear canal, bullet bounces around the skull scrambles the brain.
    ....or we can just not have the death penalty.

    Hell, we just threw out a case of a woman wrongfully placed on death row. It doesn't seem like this is a good system to keep, we keep finding innocent people on death row. Hate to know how many innocents we've actually killed.
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    Re: Utah to allow firing squads for executions

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Keep thinking about it, it will make sense.
    What makes you think that I never agreed with you at some point in my life? Some of us just come to realize that the very notion of valuing life by ending life is contrariety nonsense.

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    Re: Utah to allow firing squads for executions

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    I favor massive and unending suffering followed by a painful death for those with no value on life and for the suffering they have caused many others. But that's just me.
    Hopefully.
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    Re: Utah to allow firing squads for executions

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Killers deserve to die.
    No, they do not. They deserve to be punished, that is obvious but almost none deserve to die (if any) but a good deal do deserve natural life in jail.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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    Re: Utah to allow firing squads for executions

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    No, they do not. They deserve to be punished, that is obvious but almost none deserve to die (if any) but a good deal do deserve natural life in jail.
    Clearly you have never been to jail.
    After the immediate shock of jail life, they come to grips with their new reality. Plus some shred of hope of a retrial or other legal maneuvering by a lawyer just sucking up their families money. If they have any.
    Then its the day to day, and anyone in a day to day existence will find a way to survive. Even thrive.
    Modern jail is not the painful arduace life of rape, bad food, fighting, mean screws and tough wardens.
    Even death row is usually peaceful and relatively pleasant in airconditioned and heated cells.
    Men become institutionalized pretty quickly when facing life in prison.
    Its too good for some killer that took everything from some one.

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    Re: Utah to allow firing squads for executions

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    ....or we can just not have the death penalty.

    Hell, we just threw out a case of a woman wrongfully placed on death row. It doesn't seem like this is a good system to keep, we keep finding innocent people on death row. Hate to know how many innocents we've actually killed.
    Unfortunately some people can live with the error rates.
    They can live with DA's witholding information that could have cleared a person.
    The bar is set so high for DA that do this, convictions are nearly non existent. Did find one case though


    DPIC | Death Penalty Information Center

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    In 1985, John Thompson, a 22-year-old father of two, was wrongfully convicted of murder and sent to death row at Angola State Penitentiary in Louisiana. While facing his seventh execution date, a private investigator hired by his appellate attorneys discovered scientific evidence of Thompson’s innocence that had been concealed for 15 years by the New Orleans Parish District Attorney’s Office.

    Thompson was released and exonerated in 2003 after 18 years in prison, 14 of them isolated on death row. The state of Louisiana gave him $10 and a bus ticket upon his release. He sued the District Attorney’s Office. A jury awarded him $14 million, one for each year on death row. When Louisiana appealed, the case went to the U.S. Supreme Court. This spring, Justice Clarence Thomas issued the majority 5-4 decision in Connick v. Thompson that the prosecutor’s office could not be held liable.
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    Re: Utah to allow firing squads for executions

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    ....or we can just not have the death penalty.

    Hell, we just threw out a case of a woman wrongfully placed on death row. It doesn't seem like this is a good system to keep, we keep finding innocent people on death row. Hate to know how many innocents we've actually killed.
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    Re: Utah to allow firing squads for executions

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    The idea that if you take the life of an innocent you have forfeited your own is about as objective and impersonal as it gets. Plus if life in jail were 'worse for the offender' why does every one of them appeal to have their sentence reduced to life in prison? Answer: because the death penalty IS worse for the offender despite your claim to the contrary.
    No, that is the old testament/muslim sharia kind of thinking.

    The death penalty is something from the dark ages, not from 2015 IMHO. And no, it is not objective or impersonal because of the subjective, irrational and haphazard manner in which people get the death penalty.

    And it is worse because the criminal will be confronted with the results of his actions and he will have to think about what he did for the rest of his life (long life). At least that is my opinion.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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    Re: Utah to allow firing squads for executions

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    ....or we can just not have the death penalty.

    Hell, we just threw out a case of a woman wrongfully placed on death row. It doesn't seem like this is a good system to keep, we keep finding innocent people on death row. Hate to know how many innocents we've actually killed.
    There is little doubt that the state has executed the innocent. I don't know if you're familiar with Cameron Todd Willingham, but his case is very disturbing. There's no way that he should've been convicted let alone put to death based on evidence and He was probably innocent, but that's Texas for you. In a perfect legal system I would be for the death penalty, but when there is a chance that one innocent person could be put to death under our system. I will not support the death penalty.

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