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    Re: Breaking News Airbus plane crashes in Southern France

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    RIP to those involved. shameful to be already speculating on possible external causes.
    Why?

    Speculation that it might have been a bomb by islamacists is not unfounded given the history of attacks on aircraft by them and promises of more attacks. In addiition, German aircraft tend to be very well maintained and flown by well trained pilots (of course that does nor rule out mechanical failure).

    Now, if I speculated that the plane might have been brought down by a totally unfounded group: Green Peace, the Vatican in conjunction with Trilateral Commission, the Democratic Party, etc. you would have a point.

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    Re: Breaking News Airbus plane crashes in Southern France

    This sounds like a major mystery. The distress call didn't come from the plane - it came from air traffic control after the plane descended to a low altitude but did it in a very controlled manner.

    Pictures can be seen of the debris all over the place. It looks like the plane absolutely disintegrated upon impact.

    There were 16 German students from a single school on the flight, along with 2 teachers. They were on their way back from a Spanish exchange program. It is just heartbreaking to see the images from their town of the people in mourning.

    So very sad.
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    Re: Breaking News Airbus plane crashes in Southern France

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanSpartan View Post
    Flying into a mountain at a shape dive sounds pretty unsurvivable.

    Might have been a bomb on board.

    Agents of Islam have promised pay back for killing the Charile Habo killers. They promised something big.
    There's a great conclusion to jump to without any evidence whatsoever.

    The plane's descent rate was quick, but controlled. It wasn't a bomb.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Breaking News Airbus plane crashes in Southern France

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    There's a great conclusion to jump to without any evidence whatsoever.

    The plane's descent rate was quick, but controlled. It wasn't a bomb.
    The descent was 4,000 ft per minute which is controlled as I understand it by the A320 software on the plane. A small bomb couldn't have gone off decompressing the plane and causing the descent? I'm not sure I can completely discount such an occurrence yet.
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    Re: Breaking News Airbus plane crashes in Southern France

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    There's a great conclusion to jump to without any evidence whatsoever.

    The plane's descent rate was quick, but controlled. It wasn't a bomb.
    who said it was a bomb.. but it could still be terrorism

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    Re: Breaking News Airbus plane crashes in Southern France

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    The descent was 4,000 ft per minute which is controlled as I understand it by the A320 software on the plane. A small bomb couldn't have gone off decompressing the plane and causing the descent? I'm not sure I can completely discount such an occurrence yet.
    Decompression is a reason to descend, but not that low. Such a descent is not automatic, the command to descend must be initiated by the pilots.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Breaking News Airbus plane crashes in Southern France

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    who said it was a bomb.. but it could still be terrorism
    Uhh, the post I was responding to suggested it could be a bomb.

    Yes, it could be terrorism but right now there is absolutely no evidence pointing to such that I am aware of.
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    Re: Breaking News Airbus plane crashes in Southern France

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Decompression is a reason to descend, but not that low. Such a descent is not automatic, the command to descend must be initiated by the pilots.
    I agree - it doesn't make sense that they descended below the mountain levels and I'm curious as to why they didn't turn for a nearby airfield.
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    Re: Breaking News Airbus plane crashes in Southern France

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I agree - it doesn't make sense that they descended below the mountain levels and I'm curious as to why they didn't turn for a nearby airfield.
    I actually had thought of decompression myself when I first saw it on the news. If the pilots responded improperly by commanding a descent and then going for their oxygen masks, they could have passed out and have been unable to recover from the dive. It does require both pilots to make several simultaneous mistakes, though. (failure to follow decompression procedure, and also commanding a descent without giving the autopilot an altitude target to stop at) It would explain the lack of a mayday, at least.

    The descent rate seems too steady for any kind of major damage to the aircraft. If they had the control to descend at a constant rate... why didn't they stop?

    Dual engine flameout, while incredibly rare, would explain it... but not the lack of radio contact. You'd also expect some attempt to turn to more favorable terrain.
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    Re: Breaking News Airbus plane crashes in Southern France

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I actually had thought of decompression myself when I first saw it on the news. If the pilots responded improperly by commanding a descent and then going for their oxygen masks, they could have passed out and have been unable to recover from the dive. It does require both pilots to make several simultaneous mistakes, though. (failure to follow decompression procedure, and also commanding a descent without giving the autopilot an altitude target to stop at) It would explain the lack of a mayday, at least.

    The descent rate seems too steady for any kind of major damage to the aircraft. If they had the control to descend at a constant rate... why didn't they stop?

    Dual engine flameout, while incredibly rare, would explain it... but not the lack of radio contact. You'd also expect some attempt to turn to more favorable terrain.
    If it were a controlled descent they would have flown away from the Mountains not towards them.

    Airbus has taken the pilot out of the equation more than any other large Aircraft manufacturer.

    To the point where it led to a perfectly good Airbus 330 being flown into a Ocean with confused pilots trying to figure out what was happening. ( Air France 447 )

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