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    Re: U.S. Flees Yemen

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    The Saud built a fence across their Border. Complete with sensors and Towers. I think they were worried about the 1/3rd part of Yemen that's Shia. Probably think that the Sunni in Yemen aren't capable of maintaining control. Or able to control the Shia.
    I didn't know that. Thanks for the info. Do you think that the Saudis will do anything, or should do anything if it gets out of control?
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    Re: U.S. Flees Yemen

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    How is this Obama's fault? Yemen has collapsed because of a decade-long insurgency by the Houthis that's been backed by Iran. The campaign to prevent al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula from posing any major terrorist threat has been successful because of the drone program; the Houthis are a separate issue entirely that should really be handled by Saudi Arabia.

    Heya MadLib. Where did Ansar al Sharia begin again?

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    Re: U.S. Flees Yemen

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya MadLib. Where did Ansar al Sharia begin again?
    IIRC, the Libyan and Yemeni Ansar al-Sharias are two distinct groups.
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    Re: U.S. Flees Yemen

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    I didn't know that. Thanks for the info. Do you think that the Saudis will do anything, or should do anything if it gets out of control?
    Yep Jet, and the Saud built a fence along the Iraqi border as well. We had a thread up on it in the ME Forum.








    Welcome to Fortress Saudi Arabia (via the Telegraph):

    It is not the only fence with which Saudi Arabia has chosen to surround itself. Despite the difficulty of access to westerners, the country is relatively open to fellow Muslim nations, particularly during the Haj season when pilgrims from across the world come to Mecca and Medina. However, that is changing in changing times.

    It has also created a physical barrier along parts of the even longer, 1,000-mile border with Yemen to the south......snip~

    Revealed: Saudi Arabia's 'Great Wall' to keep out Isil - Telegraph


    http://www.debatepolitics.com/middle...-arabia-5.html

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    Re: U.S. Flees Yemen

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    How is this Obama's fault? Yemen has collapsed because of a decade-long insurgency by the Houthis that's been backed by Iran. The campaign to prevent al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula from posing any major terrorist threat has been successful because of the drone program; the Houthis are a separate issue entirely that should really be handled by Saudi Arabia.
    No, it is not Obama's fault The Loma Prieta earthquake of 1989 is Obama's fault, so let's keep things correct.

    I think that both the Iraqi invasion and the Arab Spring are responsible. What do you think that the Saudis should do? And in the end, do you think that the Saudis might annex Yemen as a state?
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    Re: U.S. Flees Yemen

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yep Jet, and the Saud built a fence along the Iraqi border as well. We had a thread up on it in the ME Forum.








    Welcome to Fortress Saudi Arabia (via the Telegraph):

    It is not the only fence with which Saudi Arabia has chosen to surround itself. Despite the difficulty of access to westerners, the country is relatively open to fellow Muslim nations, particularly during the Haj season when pilgrims from across the world come to Mecca and Medina. However, that is changing in changing times.

    It has also created a physical barrier along parts of the even longer, 1,000-mile border with Yemen to the south......snip~

    Revealed: Saudi Arabia's 'Great Wall' to keep out Isil - Telegraph


    http://www.debatepolitics.com/middle...-arabia-5.html
    So, it kinda sounds to me like that's where the right has been getting the big idea of a fence on our southern border...

    BTW, what about the Saudis?
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    Re: U.S. Flees Yemen

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    No, it is not Obama's fault The Loma Prieta earthquake of 1989 is Obama's fault, so let's keep things correct.

    I think that both the Iraqi invasion and the Arab Spring are responsible. What do you think that the Saudis should do? And in the end, do you think that the Saudis might annex Yemen as a state?
    Could split as it was before.
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    Re: U.S. Flees Yemen

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    So we should of sent more troops to Yemen as the country falls apart into a multi-sided civil war?
    What makes you think the chaos would have been there if troops had remained? The fact is that all of this happened after Obama withdrew.

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    Re: U.S. Flees Yemen

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    IIRC, the Libyan and Yemeni Ansar al-Sharias are two distinct groups.
    Ansar al Sharia started in Yemen and has spread to Libya. IIRC according to the State Dept? Well we now know they operate inside Libya.




    State Department: Ansar al Sharia an alias for AQAP.....


    Although the State Department’s statement focuses solely on Ansar al Sharia in Yemen, other Ansar al Sharia-branded organizations have emerged elsewhere since the Arab Spring, including Tunisia and Libya. Ansar al Sharia Tunisia is headed by Seifallah ben Hassine, otherwise known as Abu Iyad al Tunisi. Hassine, a longtime al Qaeda ally, orchestrated the Sept. 14 assault on the US embassy in Tunis.

    The State Department says that Ansar al Sharia in Yemen is a “separate entity from Ansar al Sharia in Libya.” According to a report published by the federal research division of the Library of Congress in August, one of these Ansar al Sharia groups “has increasingly embodied al Qaeda’s presence in Libya, as indicated by its active social-media propaganda, extremist discourse, and hatred of the West, especially the United States.”

    That report, titled “Al Qaeda in Libya: A Profile,” was produced under an agreement with the Defense Department’s Combating Terrorism Technical Support Office (CTTSO). The report’s authors document al Qaeda’s extensive presence in Libya, finding that al Qaeda’s senior leadership in Pakistan has dispatched operatives to the North African country to establish a clandestine terrorist network there. The Defense Department’s CTTSO concluded that al Qaeda is on the verge of a fully operational network inside Libya, and Ansar al Sharia is one of the brands employed by al Qaeda operatives.....snip~

    State Department: Ansar al Sharia an alias for AQAP | The Long War Journal

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    Re: U.S. Flees Yemen

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Sooo....the US should of interceded to protect dictators against populous uprisings?
    If you've been propping them up for decades, yes. If they're your dictators, yes.

    Or you ensure that you're part of the uprising and part of what results.

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