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    Re: U.S. Flees Yemen

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Lol, nobody denies the nationality of fifteen of the 9/11 hijackers.



    Further information: September 11 attacks
    The hijackers in the September 11 attacks were 19 men affiliated with al-Qaeda, and 15 of the 19 were citizens of Saudi Arabia.[1] The others were from the United Arab Emirates (2), Egypt and Lebanon. The hijackers were organized into four teams, each led by a pilot-trained hijacker with three or four "muscle hijackers" who were trained to help subdue the pilots, passengers, and crew.

    Hijackers in the September 11 attacks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Six years too late, George W. Bush has finally acknowledged that 15 of the 19 September 11 hijackers were citizens of the U.S. ally, Saudi Arabia.

    Page 2: Exclusive: President Bush in Saudi Arabia - ABC News
    Neither you nor anyone else knows, or ever will know, the identity of the nineteen hijackers. That includes President Bush and your unknown Wikipedia authors. One of Osama bin Laden's goals was to turn gullible Americans against Saudi Arabia. In your case, apparently, not much turning was needed.

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    Re: U.S. Flees Yemen

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Neither you nor anyone else knows, or ever will know, the identity of the nineteen hijackers. That includes President Bush and your unknown Wikipedia authors. One of Osama bin Laden's goals was to turn gullible Americans against Saudi Arabia. In your case, apparently, not much turning was needed.
    Lol. You're alone. And SA has never had my support. Pity they have yours.
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    Re: U.S. Flees Yemen

    Sorry for responding late, as the situation is changing by the hour.
    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    True, but capability to project force and competing fronts is a reality for them that I think you are underappreciating.
    It can certainly outmatch Iran's capability to project. The IRGC is already very much stretched into Lebanon, Syria, and Iraq, so Maj. Gen. Soleimani will have a tough time managing things in a fourth country. Unlike the coalition, Iran definitely cannot send regular troops to Yemen. As far as Saudi Arabia being outstretched, they aren't committing so much resources to either ISIS or Bahrain to seriously impede their intervention into Yemen.

    Also, the anti-Houthi coalition is much broader than even I thought it would be. It includes nine countries already in its air campaign, and may additionally include Pakistan as part of a ground offensive.
    and what about our foreign policy for the last few years makes you think that we will actually do this?
    What makes you think we wouldn't? We were basically the air force for the NTC in Libya, and they weren't established US allies like Saudi Arabia is. We've continued to be a strong partner with Israel for all practical purposes, despite the petty squabbling that's going on right now. This is a great opportunity to hand Iran an international embarrassment, especially considering that the Houthis' success is mostly due to the complicity of Saleh, who was previously their hated enemy.
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    Re: U.S. Flees Yemen

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Saudi Arabia is no better than Iran. SA, is every bit as big a sponsor of terror as Iran. SA's treatment of women, gays and others is dismal. Wealthy elites in SA helped finance the 9/11 terror attacks, and indeed, fifteen of the attackers were Saudi. Saudi Arabia suppressed/helped suppress the Arab Spring protests, with US blessing in Bahrain, because that was not in their interests. So, an expanded Iranian influence in the region could be no worse than SA's.
    My support for Saudi Arabia's intervention in Yemen hardly means that I admire or condone their system of government, or their suppression of the Bahraini revolution. The sponsorship of al-Qaeda and ISIS by rich Saudis is, of course, something that should be addressed by the United States. In this case, however, Saudi Arabia is acting to support the legitimate, democratizing government of Yemen against fanatical Houthi insurgents and the former autocrat that they have allied themselves with.

    And since when were you supportive of the Arab Spring? You've opposed it in Egypt, Libya, and Syria! Funny how you only condemn the repression of a popular revolt when it is seemingly conducted in favor of US interests.
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    Re: U.S. Flees Yemen

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    My support for Saudi Arabia's intervention in Yemen hardly means that I admire or condone their system of government, or their suppression of the Bahraini revolution. The sponsorship of al-Qaeda and ISIS by rich Saudis is, of course, something that should be addressed by the United States. In this case, however, Saudi Arabia is acting to support the legitimate, democratizing government of Yemen against fanatical Houthi insurgents and the former autocrat that they have allied themselves with.

    And since when were you supportive of the Arab Spring? You've opposed it in Egypt, Libya, and Syria! Funny how you only condemn the repression of a popular revolt when it is seemingly conducted in favor of US interests.
    When did I say I was supportive of the Arab Spring? Quote me!!!! What I have said is that hypocritical US policy has supported Arab Spring in one place and denied it in another. The United States should have stayed the **** out of the Middle East and it wouldn't be in the foul shape it's in. Hussein, Mubarak, Gaddafi and Assad did a far better job at containment than the US has. But then that's because containment, peace, security nor humanitarianism have ever been the true US objective. And the mouth breathing, knuckle dragging, self absorbed, scared, selfish, and arrogant Americans that continue to advocate American military adventurism, hegemony, interference, influence, exploitation, and war, well, they aren't helping matters either.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: U.S. Flees Yemen

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    And the mouth breathing, knuckle dragging, self absorbed, scared, selfish, and arrogant Americans that continue to advocate American military adventurism, hegemony, interference, influence, exploitation, and war, well, they aren't helping matters either.
    Neither are those who support Russian military adventurism, hegemony, interference, exploitation, and war in Ukraine.

    As I stated to you previously, it is either wrong at all times and places, or it is not. You can't have it both ways.


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    Re: U.S. Flees Yemen

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Neither you nor anyone else knows, or ever will know, the identity of the nineteen hijackers. That includes President Bush and your unknown Wikipedia authors. One of Osama bin Laden's goals was to turn gullible Americans against Saudi Arabia. In your case, apparently, not much turning was needed.
    LOLWHUT. If you believe the majority of the 9/11 hijackers werent citizens of Saudi Arabia then what were they? Let me guess, I suppose you dont believe Osama Bin Laden was a Saudi national either right?

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    Re: U.S. Flees Yemen

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    My support for Saudi Arabia's intervention in Yemen hardly means that I admire or condone their system of government, or their suppression of the Bahraini revolution. The sponsorship of al-Qaeda and ISIS by rich Saudis is, of course, something that should be addressed by the United States. In this case, however, Saudi Arabia is acting to support the legitimate, democratizing government of Yemen against fanatical Houthi insurgents and the former autocrat that they have allied themselves with.

    And since when were you supportive of the Arab Spring? You've opposed it in Egypt, Libya, and Syria! Funny how you only condemn the repression of a popular revolt when it is seemingly conducted in favor of US interests.

    Mornin Madlib. Oh yeah....you called that Right. With him he even blamed the US for our beginning. He always looks to blame the US and rarely ever stands up for the US. Course he also blames both parties. But more so any from the Right.

    That's not to say he wont condemn the left.....but it will be a very short sentence and then its back to bashing the US, Bush Jr and Republicans. Even if we aren't involved nor start the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    Neither are those who support Russian military adventurism, hegemony, interference, exploitation, and war in Ukraine.

    As I stated to you previously, it is either wrong at all times and places, or it is not. You can't have it both ways.
    You may have accused the Soviet Union of all that. It collapsed. What we've seen Russia doing is responding to US/Western intrigue now for a couple decades. Regardless of how you characterize it.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: U.S. Flees Yemen

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You may have accused the Soviet Union of all that. It collapsed. What we've seen Russia doing is responding to US/Western intrigue now for a couple decades. Regardless of how you characterize it.
    Indeed, comrade. The provocations from Washington have only continued. The great, peace-loving Soviet Union was constantly forced to respond to aggressive intrigues and ventures by the capitalist war lovers against world peace and brotherhood.

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