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    Re: Russia Threatens Nuclear Armaggedon

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You can't finish your wall before I finish mine. Your bricks aren't as good and you don't have as many people to help you lay them. I will finish first.

    Nato forces aren't the issue here. This is nuclear war we're talking about. Conventional forces quickly become irrelevant. It doesn't matter if Russia has more tanks than we do.
    The US had a monopoly on the bomb for 4 years and Truman didn't use it against Russia despite the Berlin airlift and Russia's political annexation of Eastern Europe so he had plenty of provocation. Had those roles been reversed and Stalin had it first how do you think the world would be today ? Looking at current attempts at intimidating Denmark and Russia's ongoing inability to embrace true democracy its not like they have changed all that much since then. Historically all Russia has ever respected is force or the threat of it
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    Re: Russia Threatens Nuclear Armaggedon

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    The US had a monopoly on the bomb for 4 years and Truman didn't use it against Russia despite the Berlin airlift and Russia's political annexation of Eastern Europe so he had plenty of provocation. Had those roles been reversed and Stalin had it first how do you think the world would be today ? Looking at current attempts at intimidating Denmark and Russia's ongoing inability to embrace true democracy its not like they have changed all that much since then. Historically all Russia has ever respected is force or the threat of it
    Theres a narcissism and ignorance amongst many who ascribe western views to others when its not there. Historically Russia has been a very brutal place, even before communism. They respect force, more so than even the views and policies of the leader involved. This is manifest elsewhere, like in our dealings with Iran (as they yell death to America). Its hard for some of us to accept that there are people out there who think very differently than we do.

    I heard an argument recently that the US should have used nukes in Korea during the Korean conflict. It was a war of communist aggression, and would have established that western nations would not stand for such things, but the US was blindsided, and its reluctance set a precedence that set the tone of much of the cold war.

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    Re: Russia Threatens Nuclear Armaggedon

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    The rebels were using that weapon system for defence not attack. MH17 was a case of mistaken identity
    Okay lets put it this way then so you can understand....

    My fists are only for defensive purposes.... until I use them to beat the crap out of someone..
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    Re: Russia Threatens Nuclear Armaggedon

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Okay lets put it this way then so you can understand....

    My fists are only for defensive purposes.... until I use them to beat the crap out of someone..
    Your analogy is highly flawed. Anti-missile defense systems are not engineered for offensive purposes. That would be like imagining a television could mow the lawn.


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    Re: Russia Threatens Nuclear Armaggedon

    Russia once again sends nuclear-capable bombers and fighter aircraft on threatening flights. Once again the aircraft had their identification transponders turned off and had not filed a flight plan with civil aviation authorities.

    Russian Bombers Spark NATO Scramble

    March 24, 2015

    NATO jets were scrambled Tuesday to escort Russian fighters and nuclear-capable bombers flying near the Baltic states and Sweden with their transponders switched off, sparking protests over the danger they posed to civil aviation. Lithuania's defence ministry spokeswoman Asta Galdikaite said NATO air policing aircraft identified two Tu-22 type bombers and two SU-27 jets. "The flights conducted with switched-off on-board transponders are among other things a risk to civil aviation as such flights are not visible on civil air traffic control radars," she told AFP. "We are tired of having to repeatedly protest against these violations," Foreign Minister Margot Wallstroem told the Swedish TT news agency on Tuesday.


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    Re: Russia Threatens Nuclear Armaggedon

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    Your analogy is highly flawed. Anti-missile defense systems are not engineered for offensive purposes.
    Neither are my fists..

    That would be like imagining a television could mow the lawn.
    No, it would be imagining that a television also can kill if used in the correct way. Other than that it is just a box with electronics in.
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    Re: Russia Threatens Nuclear Armaggedon

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    No, it would be imagining that a television also can kill if used in the correct way. Other than that it is just a box with electronics in.
    I don't think you quite get it. NATO SM-3 missile defense interceptors are engineered to destroy targets either slightly above or at the atmospheric boundary.


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    Re: Russia Threatens Nuclear Armaggedon

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Neither are my fists..



    No, it would be imagining that a television also can kill if used in the correct way. Other than that it is just a box with electronics in.
    the missle defence shield is more aptly compared to a knights breast plate. It is really only useful to keep the knight from getting killed.
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    Re: Russia threatens Denmark with nuclear weapons if it tries to join Nato defence sh

    Quote Originally Posted by face, your View Post
    Russia has threatened to target Denmark’s warships with nuclear weapons if the Scandinavian nation becomes a member of Nato’s missile defence shield.

    Russia threatens Denmark with nuclear weapons if it tries to join Nato defence shield - Europe - World - The Independent

    Putin knows damn well what a nuclear attack on a NATO member means, this is the last straw, this man Adolf Putler needs to be stopped by any means necessary, it is incumbent on any person in the world capable of doing so to assassinate this insane genocidal monster.
    Might have meant something if it was anything other than an empty threat.

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    Re: Russia Threatens Nuclear Armaggedon

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    I don't think you quite get it. NATO SM-3 missile defense interceptors are engineered to destroy targets either slightly above or at the atmospheric boundary.
    And if there is nothing.. they fall to earth and do what exactly?

    Sorry but it is utterly bs that a missile can be "defensive" only. That is like saying a gun is only defensive...
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