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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    The CIA used a young kid that belonged to stumbling and bumbling Ba'ath Party. It had no inking at that time of Saddam's destiny. The US also helped him during the Iran War out of pragmatism ... Khomeini was holding Americans hostage and threatening to disrupt tanker traffic in the Persian Gulf. The CIA had no role in Saddam's internal rise to power between 1972-1979.
    Yes, well then you go on claiming that the CIA was playing kid games. Enough.
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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yes, well then you go on claiming that the CIA was playing kid games. Enough.
    What he said was correct and you have no room for disagreement. Of course many will believe what they prefer to believe but often, if we make those beliefs known, they may run into facts. This is the case here.

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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I don't know whether B'smith is right or not, but I do know that phrases translated from one language into another quite frequently change meanings. The famous statement by Krushchev, for example "We will bury you" was better translated as "We will leave you in the dust," not meant to be a threat but a challenge.

    The "wipe Israel off of the face of the Earth" and "Death to America" phrases could well be the same thing.
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    I appreciate your open mindedness.

    Ahmanadinejad was deliberately mistranslated to engender greater Anti-Iranian xenophobia and provide more fodder for the Pro-War crowd.

    BBC was the first to issue the deliberate mistranslation on its front page. Their retraction and proper translation was days later buried inconspicuously on later pages.

    Most major media outlets printed the correct translation in obscure locations while Independent media featured it more conspicuously. Poorly informed War Mongers already had all the "proof" they needed chose & still choose to ignore the fact.

    Anyone who has taken the time & effort to learn other languages understands that there are few direct translations with identical meanings. This is especially the case in different language "Families" like English to Farsi


    I hope you will find this article useful:



    “'Hitler' does New York”
    Asia Times Online :: Middle East News - 'Hitler' does New York

    EXCERPT “ Humming non-stop in the background noise was the "wipe Israel of the map" myth.

    No one had the intellectual decency to point out that what he really said, in Farsi, in a speech on October 2005 to an annual anti-Zionist conference in Iran, was that "the regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time".

    He was doing no more than quoting the late ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini - hoping that an unfair (toward Palestine) regime would be replaced by another one more equitable; he was not threatening to nuke Israel. Warmongers anyway don't bother to check the facts.”CONTINUED





    Meanwhile, America's former ambassador to the UN & its & AIPAC Poster Boy are confirming World fears about America's bellicose War Mongers:

    “McCain Joins Bolton, Invites Israel to Bomb Iran”
    McCain Joins Bolton, Invites Israel to Bomb Iran*|*Jon Rainwater


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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    When you were there while the Shah was in power there were over 100= 150,000 Jews in Iran. Now there are less than 9,000.

    If "Death to the Israel" or "Death To America" is hyperbole, why repeat it? Are they so unsophisticated that they don't understand the significance of these words? If that is the case, as you claim, then how in the world can we expect these backward people to possess nuclear weapons?

    Sharing a lunch with some Iranians over 40 years ago was probably a wonderful experience but the world is having to deal with the Iran of today.

    https://www.google.ca/search?q=iran+...g&ved=0CBwQsAQ

    Re: your sneering: "Sharing a lunch with some Iranians over 40 years ago was probably a wonderful experience but the world is having to deal with the Iran of today."


    Actually it's possible to stay in touch with Regional events outside of doing research.

    For Example, Friday night my wife & I hosted a dinner party for some Regional Med. students who are from Greece, Afghanistan, Pakistan & Iran etc. so I had a more recent opportunity to help understand more about everything from kite fighting to regional sentiments & some of what's really going on in Iran & elsewhere in the Region. They'll be back.

    They agreed that the "Death to America" stuff is just meaningless & embarrassing, tiresome, old hyperbolic rhetoric. Iran's younger generation is working on changing the political landscape in Iran & there are, obviously, "backward" people in every country.

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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by B'smith View Post
    Re: your sneering: "Sharing a lunch with some Iranians over 40 years ago was probably a wonderful experience but the world is having to deal with the Iran of today."


    Actually it's possible to stay in touch with Regional events outside of doing research.

    For Example, Friday night my wife & I hosted a dinner party for some Regional Med. students who are from Greece, Afghanistan, Pakistan & Iran etc. so I had a more recent opportunity to help understand more about everything from kite fighting to regional sentiments & some of what's really going on in Iran & elsewhere in the Region. They'll be back.

    They agreed that the "Death to America" stuff is just meaningless & embarrassing, tiresome, old hyperbolic rhetoric. Iran's younger generation is working on changing the political landscape in Iran & there are, obviously, "backward" people in every country.
    The great 'melting pot' at work. A wonderful thing.

    Yes, there are backward people in many areas of the world, which is why they must not be allowed nuclear weapons.

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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by B'smith View Post
    Re: your sneering: "Sharing a lunch with some Iranians over 40 years ago was probably a wonderful experience but the world is having to deal with the Iran of today."


    Actually it's possible to stay in touch with Regional events outside of doing research.

    For Example, Friday night my wife & I hosted a dinner party for some Regional Med. students who are from Greece, Afghanistan, Pakistan & Iran etc. so I had a more recent opportunity to help understand more about everything from kite fighting to regional sentiments & some of what's really going on in Iran & elsewhere in the Region. They'll be back.

    They agreed that the "Death to America" stuff is just meaningless & embarrassing, tiresome, old hyperbolic rhetoric. Iran's younger generation is working on changing the political landscape in Iran & there are, obviously, "backward" people in every country.
    I appreciate your attempt. Your talking to a Canadian, who lives in Costa Rica, his opinion is moot.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by B'smith View Post
    It's the same with "Death to America". The speaker doesn't mean it & doesn't expect his audience to believe he means it literally.
    Bs!


    Iran militia chief: Destroying Israel is ‘nonnegotiable’

    Basij commander Mohammad Reza Naqdi also threatens Saudis, saying their fate will be like that of Saddam Hussein


    The commander of the Basij militia of Iran’s Revolutionary Guards said that “erasing Israel off the map” is “nonnegotiable,” according to an Israel Radio report Tuesday.

    [...]

    In 2014, Naqdi said Iran was stepping up efforts to arm West Bank Palestinians for battle against Israel, adding the move would lead to Israel’s annihilation, Iran’s Fars news agency reported.

    “Arming the West Bank has started and weapons will be supplied to the people of this region,” Naqdi said.

    “The Zionists should know that the next war won’t be confined to the present borders and the Mujahedeen will push them back,” he added. Naqdi claimed that much of Hamas’s arsenal, training and technical knowhow in the summer conflict with Israel was supplied by Iran.

    [...]

    Iran militia chief: Destroying Israel is 'nonnegotiable' | The Times of Israel
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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Bs!


    Iran militia chief: Destroying Israel is ‘nonnegotiable’

    Basij commander Mohammad Reza Naqdi also threatens Saudis, saying their fate will be like that of Saddam Hussein


    The commander of the Basij militia of Iran’s Revolutionary Guards said that “erasing Israel off the map” is “nonnegotiable,” according to an Israel Radio report Tuesday.

    [...]

    In 2014, Naqdi said Iran was stepping up efforts to arm West Bank Palestinians for battle against Israel, adding the move would lead to Israel’s annihilation, Iran’s Fars news agency reported.

    “Arming the West Bank has started and weapons will be supplied to the people of this region,” Naqdi said.

    “The Zionists should know that the next war won’t be confined to the present borders and the Mujahedeen will push them back,” he added. Naqdi claimed that much of Hamas’s arsenal, training and technical knowhow in the summer conflict with Israel was supplied by Iran.

    [...]

    Iran militia chief: Destroying Israel is 'nonnegotiable' | The Times of Israel
    The left will tell us words dont matter n stuff.

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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Bs!


    Iran militia chief: Destroying Israel is ‘nonnegotiable’

    Basij commander Mohammad Reza Naqdi also threatens Saudis, saying their fate will be like that of Saddam Hussein


    The commander of the Basij militia of Iran’s Revolutionary Guards said that “erasing Israel off the map” is “nonnegotiable,” according to an Israel Radio report Tuesday.

    [...]

    In 2014, Naqdi said Iran was stepping up efforts to arm West Bank Palestinians for battle against Israel, adding the move would lead to Israel’s annihilation, Iran’s Fars news agency reported.

    “Arming the West Bank has started and weapons will be supplied to the people of this region,” Naqdi said.

    “The Zionists should know that the next war won’t be confined to the present borders and the Mujahedeen will push them back,” he added. Naqdi claimed that much of Hamas’s arsenal, training and technical knowhow in the summer conflict with Israel was supplied by Iran.

    [...]

    Iran militia chief: Destroying Israel is 'nonnegotiable' | The Times of Israel
    The left will tell us words dont matter n stuff.

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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yes, well then you go on claiming that the CIA was playing kid games. Enough.
    I'll call out you (or anyone) whenever I see an attempt to manipulate/falsify history in order to promote a political/ideological agenda.


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