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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    I'm thinking about how Iraq played with the U.N. and wonder if Iran will do the same re UN/IAEA document/data/materials oversight and facility inspections.

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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I'm thinking about how Iraq played with the U.N. and wonder if Iran will do the same re UN/IAEA document/data/materials oversight and facility inspections.
    I'm thinking about how this was used as an excuse to invade Iraq and essentially cause the collapse of the Middle East.

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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Hopefully B'smith wont deprive democracies of their rights n stuff!
    Perhaps he's not familiar with the concept that with rights comes responsibilities. Most people are properly vetted before acquiring weapons and that procedure should be especially onerous when the applicant is chanting to the death oto all their enemies, real or perceived. Maybe they're just kidding around but judging by the way they treat their citizens and neighbors, I wouldn't give them the benefit of any doubt.

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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    I'm thinking about how this was used as an excuse to invade Iraq and essentially cause the collapse of the Middle East.
    Your history is faulty. Iraq was declared "stable" as late as 2011. FLASHBACK

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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Your history is faulty. Iraq was declared "stable" as late as 2011. FLASHBACK
    How was Iraq stable if America needs to be there forever to keep the people from killing each other? Iraq was under Iranian thumb long before Obama.

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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Iran has the right to develop a nuclear weapon and the democracies have a right to nuke them if they do. Everyone wins.
    _______________
    "Everyone Wins"?

    Perhaps you would like to volunteer your time helping the mangled, burned, traumatized & mutilated, young "Winners" languishing in America's grossly underfunded V.A. hospitals. If you had ever served in America's military & witnessed Modern Ordinance vs Human Tissue "collisions", you'd feel differently

    How do you think Iranians are supposed to react after repeatedly seeing comments like yours in which a nuclear attack is so casually espoused as a "Win" & threats to abrogate a peaceful Nuclear Treaty are coming from 47 treasonous US Senators?

    While Iranian chants of "Death to ______" have proven meaningless, most of the world sees the Israel / US alliance as the greatest threat to Regional stability/peace and untrustworthy in any Nuclear Agreement that may be reached:


    “Iran Nuclear Talks: U.S. 'Not Trustworthy,' Says Top Tehran Cleric”
    Iran Nuclear Talks: U.S. 'Not Trustworthy,' Says Top Tehran Cleric - NBC News

    EXCERPT “One of Iran's most powerful clerics lashed out at the American government on Tuesday, saying the U.S. could not be trusted during high-stakes nuclear talks.

    "We support nuclear talks and also support an agreement, but a good deal in which the country's dignity and national interests are conserved," he added.

    His comments follow a letter from Senate Republicans to the Tehran government in which 47 politicians suggested they would undo any agreement signed by President Barack Obama.

    The letter, along with Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu's speech in Congress last week warning against a nuclear agreement with Iran, was harshly criticized by Iran's Foreign Minister Javed Zarif, and the White House.”CONTINUED


    Please read up on the following to get an understanding of Iran's justified concerns:

    1. J.I.N.S.A.'s "A Clean Break; A New Strategy for Securing the Realm"

    2. P.N.A.C. (Project for A New American Century)

    3. the Oded Yinon Plan

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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    How was Iraq stable if America needs to be there forever to keep the people from killing each other? Iraq was under Iranian thumb long before Obama.
    Iraq was 'stable' because the US Military was there. Withdrawing the military has led to the loss of many thousands of lives and could leave millions dead.

    The US Military has been stationed' forever' in many countries around the world, thereby securing stability in these regions. This is what should have happened in Iraq and was the position by all military leaders and advisers.

    But the American electorate, with some apparently feeling troops would have to remain in Iraq 'forever', felt that the job of US President didn't require much political or real world experience, that skin color was a sufficient qualification. These same people now seem to feel that gender is the highest qualifier for political office.

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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by B'smith View Post
    While Iranian chants of "Death to ______" have proven meaningless, most of the world sees the Israel / US alliance as the greatest threat to Regional stability/peace and untrustworthy in any Nuclear Agreement that may be reached:
    It is the Iranians and their support of terrorism who are creating 'instability'. Why leave the "Death to" blank? They have vowed death to both the USA and Israel, right?
    “Iran Nuclear Talks: U.S. 'Not Trustworthy,' Says Top Tehran Cleric”
    The US, under Obama, has proven to be 'untrustworthy'. No argument there.
    EXCERPT “One of Iran's most powerful clerics lashed out at the American government on Tuesday, saying the U.S. could not be trusted during high-stakes nuclear talks. "We support nuclear talks and also support an agreement, but a good deal in which the country's dignity and national interests are conserved," he added.
    That's what happens when the Stupids elect an inexperienced and not very bright street hustler for President.
    His comments follow a letter from Senate Republicans to the Tehran government in which 47 politicians suggested they would undo any agreement signed by President Barack Obama.
    The opinion of the American people's representatives counts for more than what some Iranian yahoo may think.
    The letter, along with Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu's speech in Congress last week warning against a nuclear agreement with Iran, was harshly criticized by Iran's Foreign Minister Javed Zarif, and the White House.”
    Who cares?

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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by B'smith View Post
    _______________
    "Everyone Wins"?

    Perhaps you would like to volunteer your time helping the mangled, burned, traumatized & mutilated, young "Winners" languishing in America's grossly underfunded V.A. hospitals. If you had ever served in America's military & witnessed Modern Ordinance vs Human Tissue "collisions", you'd feel differently

    How do you think Iranians are supposed to react after repeatedly seeing comments like yours in which a nuclear attack is so casually espoused as a "Win" & threats to abrogate a peaceful Nuclear Treaty are coming from 47 treasonous US Senators?

    While Iranian chants of "Death to ______" have proven meaningless, most of the world sees the Israel / US alliance as the greatest threat to Regional stability/peace and untrustworthy in any Nuclear Agreement that may be reached:


    “Iran Nuclear Talks: U.S. 'Not Trustworthy,' Says Top Tehran Cleric”
    Iran Nuclear Talks: U.S. 'Not Trustworthy,' Says Top Tehran Cleric - NBC News

    EXCERPT “One of Iran's most powerful clerics lashed out at the American government on Tuesday, saying the U.S. could not be trusted during high-stakes nuclear talks.

    "We support nuclear talks and also support an agreement, but a good deal in which the country's dignity and national interests are conserved," he added.

    His comments follow a letter from Senate Republicans to the Tehran government in which 47 politicians suggested they would undo any agreement signed by President Barack Obama.

    The letter, along with Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu's speech in Congress last week warning against a nuclear agreement with Iran, was harshly criticized by Iran's Foreign Minister Javed Zarif, and the White House.”CONTINUED


    Please read up on the following to get an understanding of Iran's justified concerns:

    1. J.I.N.S.A.'s "A Clean Break; A New Strategy for Securing the Realm"

    2. P.N.A.C. (Project for A New American Century)

    3. the Oded Yinon Plan
    Iran is in Iraq, Syria and Yemen. How well is that working for stability in the region.
    Iraq is nothing more than a client state of Iran.
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    Hillary is the only defense I or anyone else needs.

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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    How was Iraq stable if America needs to be there forever to keep the people from killing each other? Iraq was under Iranian thumb long before Obama.
    That would be a question for you to ask Obama, his words.

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