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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    So you're okay with other countries getting nuked. Good to know. Do you think at some point Iran will either develop or buy or a combination of the two ICBM's that could reach US allies or even the continental US at some point in the future AFTER they have the nuclear bomb capability or is that absolutely not possible? I mean, I'm all for looking at this in the short term but is that wise?

    Well that Bush Administration was 7 years in the past and Iran's nuclear capabilities have grown and gotten better and in more areas and with more centrifuges than in 2008. So the whole Bush didn't do anything about it is irrelevant at this point as Obama's in power and has been for 7 years and is about to be replaced by a new as yet un-named President in the up coming elections. We have to live in the "here and now" with this issue don't you think?
    Hold on a minute, when did I say I'm ok with anybody getting nuked, hmm? Kind of a bad debating tactic. I'm the one who advocates global eradication. I agree we're in the here and now, and theirs six nations leveraging Iran on this. It's not a unilateral Obama action. So it seems prudent that we let them finish before criticizing the deal that they all insist will prevent Iranian nukes and verify their compliance.
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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    It's self explanatory. What part of "whatever means necessary" is confusing you?
    I am not confused at all. Everything on the table, any and all Military assets needed to complete the mission of destroying any and all facilities targeted.
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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I'm not afraid of people in the Middle East nuking America. The Bush administrations fear-mongering about Saddam Hussein never moved me, and this fearful handwringing to gin up another unnecessary war, doesn't move me either. Hopefully the hawks and freaks like McCain and Netanyahu are marginalized. But like I said, Netanyahu is very capable of going off on Iran.
    I don't really see any hand wringing and I don't think I need someone to gin any fear up to convince me Iran with a nuke makes this world much worse off than it would be if Iran had no nuke. I'm not surprised however that this will be North Korea all over again. It's not Obama's fault nor his WH or State Department. Iran is very clever and let's face it, negotiation and haggling started in the ME.
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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Democrat152 View Post
    Ill let his actions speak for him. If destroying America was his only true concern he wouldn't have allowed negotiations to even begin. I'm certainly not saying he likes us, but he has greater concerns. What he says to his own people to keep himself with public opinion matters little to me.
    I see, so you support regimes who chant "death to America". Got it.

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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    That's just it. People are criticizing something they haven't seen! Doesn't that deserve a sheesh? Do you understand the language that Khomeini is speaking in. How do you know he said such a thing?
    No, I don't speak Farsi, but I am slowly learning Mandarin Chinese...and some think English is difficult! Maybe I picked the wrong language?

    I think I read what the Ayatollah said in one of the links somebody posted on this thread in a newspaper article written by a reporter covering the talks. Does anyone know, except those in the talks and they appear to be secretive except for the French, what's actually being discussed?

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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I know the agreement was originally for 500 centrifuges-now the "compromise" is 6,000 out of Irans 10,000.
    I know they already have the capability for nukes.
    I know socialist France is being tougher on Iran in these talks than Obama.
    I know we have given them billions.

    What on earth kind of deal is that?
    And you know all this, including that France is socialist and we've given the Iranians "billions", how again?
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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I don't really see any hand wringing and I don't think I need someone to gin any fear up to convince me Iran with a nuke makes this world much worse off than it would be if Iran had no nuke. I'm not surprised however that this will be North Korea all over again. It's not Obama's fault nor his WH or State Department. Iran is very clever and let's face it, negotiation and haggling started in the ME.
    But Iran isn't building a nuke, and six countries are fast at work to ensure that they won't be. We can imagine all kinds of hypotheticals we could be fearful of. There's enough problems to solve as it is without manufacturing more. And yes, Netanyahu's junket to congress a few days ago is handwringing at its finest.
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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    That's just it. People are criticizing something they haven't seen! Doesn't that deserve a sheesh? Do you understand the language that Khomeini is speaking in. How do you know he said such a thing?
    So your premise is that he was misinterpreted?

    Can you substantiate your claim?

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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    And you know all this, including that France is socialist and we've given the Iranians "billions", how again?
    Because I have read. You can easily google either one.

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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    No, I don't speak Farsi, but I am slowly learning Mandarin Chinese...and some think English is difficult! Maybe I picked the wrong language?

    I think I read what the Ayatollah said in one of the links somebody posted on this thread in a newspaper article written by a reporter covering the talks. Does anyone know, except those in the talks and they appear to be secretive except for the French, what's actually being discussed?
    Are you seriously learning Mandarin? Because that's pretty cool if you are. My understanding is that the six nations involved are the only ones with complete knowledge, but I'm sure that just as the US is keeping some of its ally's somewhat in the loop, the others may be doing so as well. I've heard the complaint that Obama's not giving Bibi all that much, I don't know if that was true. But it's bound to be true now, if you know what I mean?
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