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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    You do know there other hardliners...other than Khamenei right. He is not the only hardliner in Iran. You do know that right?
    Khamenei is the Supreme Leader and the spiritual leader of Iran, he answers to no one and his rule is not challenged.
    And regardless the only ones who could challenge his regime are the Iranian moderates(as we've seen in the Iranian protests back then), not the hardliners who take his word as the word of God. He doesn't need to appease anyone, it's his views that he's preaching.
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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Yes, there are, and this hardliner has always said death to America-and his timing now, indicates this is the view those other hardliners hold as well.
    His "timing now" only has significance to you. I'm sure someone or another is calling for America's demise...It probably was his turn.


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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Iran’s Supreme leader Ali Khamenei called for “Death to America” on Saturday, a day after President Barack Obama appealed to Iran to seize a “historic opportunity” for a nuclear deal and a better future, and as US Secretary of State John Kerry claimed substantial progress toward an accord.

    Khamenei told a crowd in Tehran that Iran would not capitulate to Western demands. When the crowd started shouting, “Death to America,” the ayatollah responded: “Of course yes, death to America, because America is the original source of this pressure.



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    and so we want to let them get a nuclear weapon?

    Huh?????
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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Khamenei is the Supreme Leader and the spiritual leader of Iran, he answers to no one and his rule is not challenged.
    And regardless the only ones who could challenge his regime are the Iranian moderates(as we've seen in the Iranian protests back then), not the hardliners who take his word as the word of God. He doesn't need to appease anyone, it's his views that he's preaching.

    Then either he has OKed the nuclear negotiations or does not not they are ongoing...which do you figure it is?

    Negotiating with the US and calling for our demise is counter intuitive...which do you figure has more probability of actually happening???? Our demise at the hands of Iran or a nuclear deal?


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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Perhaps he will do that without Obama's ok or agreement, but I'm sure he'd feel better about it if the US had his back. I would like to think Israel would bomb Iran but I'm not so sure any longer as Russia seems to have Iran's back on this and the anti-Israel sentiment in Europe and now in the US by it's government would only condemn such actions. I would not be surprised if under this WH the US abandoned Israel. That may change with a new President but it is not a foregone conclusion that the US would stand by Israel like it was say 7 years ago.
    And again, I agree with you. It's likely that we wouldn't just throw Israel under the bus if they acted unilaterally, but they wouldn't get the support from Obama that they would have from Bush or Reagan certainly. Besides the fact for many Americans, that's a good thing, it's still premature to be condemning the work of the P5+1 that we haven't seen the detail of. Americans are at a snails pace moving away from unconditional support for Israel, so I believe regardless who is president, subtle as it may be, we'll be seeing increasing accountability requirements from Israel.
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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Can you prove he's the only hard liner? I'd really like to see that...
    I don't think I made that claim.


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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    His "timing now" only has significance to you. I'm sure someone or another is calling for America's demise...It probably was his turn.
    Obama spends the week celebrating an Iranian holiday, on Saturday the Supreme leader yells death to America, and the next day this guy makes the rounds.

    Its transparently obvious.

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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    And again, I agree with you. It's likely that we wouldn't just throw Israel under the bus if they acted unilaterally, but they wouldn't get the support from Obama that they would have from Bush or Reagan certainly. Besides the fact for many Americans, that's a good thing, it's still premature to be condemning the work of the P5+1 that we haven't seen the detail of.
    Why would that be a good thing?
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    and so we want to let them get a nuclear weapon?

    Huh?????
    I dont know how much Obama would mind, but its intended as evidence that he is being played by Iran.

    So they will not only get nukes (they already have the capability) but they will get billions of dollars, and they will have run afoul of Obama. To be fair, this is just the latest in a string of foreign policy "smart diplomacy" blunders.

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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Can you prove he's the only hard liner? I'd really like to see that...
    As I read it, he's pointing out that there are other hard liners. There's hard liners in America too, and some of them want to be president.
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