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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    To remove Iran's nuclear capability, by whatever means necessary is the appropriate action.
    Thats likely to happen, though certainly not by Obama.

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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    To the bolded. I assume you refer to the P5+1 deal, if so we agree. Otherwise, I disagree with your optimism of a preferred outcome to an Iranian revolution. And particularly, this is not the time to be wishing to add another destabilized country to the list in the ME.
    Wait for the next elections. I see it as a natural progress for Iran to move away from a theocracy or in my opinion a Thugocracy.
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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Iran respects strong leadership and if needed force. They, like most of the thuggish countries of the world do NOT respect whiny, appeasing, chumps like Obama.

    Look around, WHERE is he succeeding? Can you give me examples of his smart diplomacy working? Face it, he fails constantly, and he and his army of gruberites try to spin it into success. The left is simply unable to deal with reality.


    I continue to see parallels between this Iran and the Iran of Jimmy Carter's days. They had every reason to keep their mouths shut during the Reagan era [now watch all the guns-for-hostages posts!] and under Bush 1, under Clinton and certainly under Bush 2, with US tanks and missiles conveniently poised on Iran's border.

    But now? After Arab spring, Egypt, Libya, Iraq, Iraq again, Putin's bullying and all that?

    Yeah, I would say they see this as their last, best hope.
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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    The "Death to America" is so cliche in Persian, that it's virtually meaningless. You could shout "Death to Spinach" and it'd have the same oompf to the average Iranian.
    Yeah, no big deal. Just like some fools want to make a big deal of those "Achtung, Juden!" signs, usually paired with a skull and crossbones, that they drew on the windows of Jewish-owned shops in Germany in the late 1930's. It was just a meaningless thing people said--a sort of a harmless jibe.

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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    Yes, the Persian is "Marg bar Amerika!" ( مرگ بر ) which is inaccurately translated as 'death' (the literal meaning) whereas it's truer translation is more along the lines of 'down with'.

    They shout it in regards to anyone or anything of which they're not a fan (including spinach), but by all means, don't let that stop your vapors US Conservative.

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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    They shout it in regards to anyone or anything of which they're not a fan (including spinach), but by all means, don't let that stop your vapors US Conservative.
    Don't you think that's indicative, then, of just how much they hate us and our values? To them, from what you've posted, "America" is equated with all that's bad. And here, leftists like you want us to compromise our and our allies' security by appeasing people who equate just the name of our country with evil?
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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Hate?

    Please demonstrate where there is "hate" in that post at all, and "hate" directed at the United States?

    The ****ing over-the-top rhetoric in the defense of a president whose loyalty should be questioned is preposterous. FFS, Boehner is a "traitor" for visiting Israel, members of congress are "enemies" according to your president......and you accuse a loyal American who is exercising his constitutional right to impeach policies and actions of government?

    From a bunch of bullies who have destroyed with rhetoric every opponent from within and without, including an ally like Netanyahu and you accuse others of hate....?

    That's disgusting
    I wonder why Moot disagrees with Hillary-who said dissent is the highest form of patriotism? Maybe that only applies to democrats.

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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Wait for the next elections. I see it as a natural progress for Iran to move away from a theocracy or in my opinion a Thugocracy.
    I don't know what reason there is to think that an Islamist theocracy like that would honor election results that went against it.

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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Wait for the next elections. I see it as a natural progress for Iran to move away from a theocracy or in my opinion a Thugocracy.
    Well that would be nice, and likely good for the region. Mind you that democracies can be and have, and are as hegemonic and imperialistic, indeed often more so than authoritarian societies.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Wait for the next elections. I see it as a natural progress for Iran to move away from a theocracy or in my opinion a Thugocracy.
    Thats interesting, Im seeing many nations in the region towards fundamentalist religious states. Iran just got there first.

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