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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    You think that someone who believes that death to America rhetoric is justified is more rational than most American conservatives are? That's pretty difficult to justify.
    The "Death to America" is so cliche in Persian, that it's virtually meaningless. You could shout "Death to Spinach" and it'd have the same oompf to the average Iranian.
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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Exactly the same words, word for ****ing word, as those used in 1978 by "students' wielding placards when an incompetent peanut farmer though he could talk to them....

    and guess what, they have a bigger army now and $300 billion in cash that Obama handed to them a month ago.

    But they are your "new friends" now....so your oil needs will be OK
    And they now have the capacity to produce nukes, and have greatly expanded their presence throughout the middle east.
    Our forums lefties say its nothing to worry about.

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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    It is, word for word, the same "rhetoric" heard again and again in the streets of Tehran in the days and weeks before "students" stormed the Us embassy....

    I guess a segment of America has forgotten that.

    So now we have it, the truth of Obama's foreign policy. Iran is your 'new best friend' and Israel is the enemy, as anything anti-American in Iran now is merely a 'spontaneous demonstration' and not a threat, but sanctions must be leveled against Israel, ISIS cannot be bombed too hard, and **** anyone who we say "never did anything for us" ...and btw "we don't want any Canadian oil on our land" so **** Canada too.

    Obama and his people have no idea what "friend" means, if there are no votes in it for Obama, **** 'em.
    Keep on thinking that the oil is some kind of gift from Canada. Just shows you as utterly clueless.

    You are aware that it's private companies doing the extraction right? As long as it's profitable they will continue to do it, when it isn't they'll stop and we'd be left with a pipeline carrying nothing.


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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Exactly the same words, word for ****ing word, as those used in 1978 by "students' wielding placards when an incompetent peanut farmer though he could talk to them....

    and guess what, they have a bigger army now and $300 billion in cash that Obama handed to them a month ago.

    But they are your "new friends" now....so your oil needs will be OK
    300 Billion? I thought it was around the 11 Billion mark.
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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    And they now have the capacity to produce nukes, and have greatly expanded their presence throughout the middle east.
    Our forums lefties say its nothing to worry about.
    They were working on that ability throughout the Bush administration. He didn't stop it.

    What, in your opinion, would be the appropriate action? When pressed you won't own up to calling for military action. You oppose diplomacy. It seems that you have no ideas other than continuing the failed policies that didn't change Iran, and didn't keep them from pursuing a weapons program.


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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    The P5 plus 1 are negotiating a deal on Nukes.
    That does not equate to the US letting Iran have the run of the ME.
    It does not stop the US from sabotage either.
    Many in the west myself included hope for a revolution in Iran.
    If no deal is reached, the sanctions increased, the economy worsens, and then we will see mass rioting.
    Unfortunately, the present leadership would not hesitate to commit mass murder and massacre demonstrators. Self preservation of their power will cause that.
    Even the Shah did not do that.
    I understand the basis of your point. An Iranian revolution, the overthrow of the authoritarian government and figs for everybody in Iran. Except, the revolutions across the region are tearing it apart. Things are worse in the region than they've been in our lifetimes. And the more US/Western policy digs, the hole just gets deeper. I'm waiting for the day when there are more people in the West that acknowledge, ok, what we done so far has only worsened things. Then, maybe we can get on with a new approach.
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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Democrat152 View Post
    I don't think you understand the kind of pressure the Iranian Leaders are under from their hardliners. This is just rhetoric to appease them. If "Death to America" were really his only goal he wouldn't have allowed negotiations to happen in the first place.


    Can you give us some kind of indication from which college's school f Iranian Studies you draw that conclusion? Or have you lived in Iran? Know a lot people who travel there?

    As I recall, the Ayatolla IS the pressure on Iranian leadership, he is the grandfather of fundamentalism and it's concrete hard line. He is the one who can and does push the radical button that leads to things like a 444 day occupation of the US embassy.

    But, since he's Obama's new buddy, I guess you all have to overlook that and make excuses for him
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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    The "Death to America" is so cliche in Persian, that it's virtually meaningless. You could shout "Death to Spinach" and it'd have the same oompf to the average Iranian.
    So your premise is that at a public address regarding the nuclear talks, the Supreme leader of Iran and a crowd were just saying virtually meaningless words? Perhaps it was just a coincidence?

    Explain why we should negotiate with a nation to allow it to get nukes as they call for the deaths of Americans.

    Why is it that the left can't even say the words islamic terrorism in the same sentence (despite Iran being a hardline islamic state that is the worlds largest state sponsor of terror), but somehow "Death to America" is meaningless.

    We are giving them billions, to help them weaponize, and listening to them say they want to kill Americans...and for what exactly? In exchange for sitting down at talks? Talks that even the President says are most likely NOT to work?

    Where is the "deal" here exactly? Kindly show how we benefit from this.

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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    They were working on that ability throughout the Bush administration. He didn't stop it.

    What, in your opinion, would be the appropriate action? When pressed you won't own up to calling for military action. You oppose diplomacy. It seems that you have no ideas other than continuing the failed policies that didn't change Iran, and didn't keep them from pursuing a weapons program.
    Ah yes, its Booooosh!!! time again, eh?

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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    This is how absolutely distorted the left has become.

    Conservatives are the same (maybe even worse) than terrorists. Israel is bad because Netanyahu disagrees with Dear Leader and therefore must be conservative. Conservatives are just like Iran because we think the deal is no deal at all.

    In THIS thread, Ive heard lefty excuses including Khamenei didn't say what he said, it was "just" a chant, they drink coke so they can't be bad, etc.

    Its a coincidence, no doubt that any different political ideology, religion, or patriotism (which happen to be the direct competitors of liberalism) are the bad guys.
    Nothing could please Iran leaders more than to hear how much you hate your president and your country. Whatever you do, don't let the truth get in your way.....it just wouldn't be you if you did.

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