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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Well, do we have to wait for the smoking gun in the form of a mushroom cloud over a US city?


    I believe that we heard that same line before G.W. Bush put Iran's Shia friends in charge in Iraq.

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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Look, I'm well aware of US foreign policy interests in weakening nations. A very fine democratic ambition. And no surprise that you would approve. Bottom line here is that we have every reason and possibility to have a positive relationship with Iran. But there's too many that have too much to gain by maintaining tensions and violence in the ME.
    It is in the interests of the United States for any two regimes that are hostile to us to harm each other as much as possible. I approve of a foreign policy that advances our interests.

    I hope the U.S. will some day have a positive relationship with Iran, just as it has had before. Before that can happen, though, the Khomeinist regime that has been oppressing that country for thirty-five years must be brought down. But when freedom-loving, pro-Western Iranians challenged that regime in 2009, at very great risk to themselves, Mr. Obama, Islamist-coddling weak sister that he is, did not even so much as give them verbal support.

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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    I believe that we heard that same line before G.W. Bush put Iran's Shia friends in charge in Iraq.
    Precisely why I quoted it.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Where's your proof that Iran is the worlds largest sponsor of terrorism?? Here's what your idol, Ronny's boy had to say.

    The director of the National Security Agency under Ronald Reagan – Lt. General William Odom – noted:

    Because the United States itself has a long record of supporting terrorists and using terrorist tactics, the slogans of today’s war on terrorism merely makes the United States look hypocritical to the rest of the world.

    Odom also said:

    By any measure the US has long used terrorism. In ‘78-79 the Senate was trying to pass a law against international terrorism – in every version they produced, the lawyers said the US would be in violation.
    Iran and state-sponsored terrorism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    State Department: Iran Supports Al Qaeda, Taliban | The Weekly Standard
    http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/195768.pdf
    'Iran's support for terrorism highest in decade' - International - Jerusalem Post
    State Sponsors: Iran - Council on Foreign Relations
    State Sponsors of Terrorism

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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    It is in the interests of the United States for any two regimes that are hostile to us to harm each other as much as possible. I approve of a foreign policy that advances our interests.

    I hope the U.S. will some day have a positive relationship with Iran, just as it has had before. Before that can happen, though, the Khomeinist regime that has been oppressing that country for thirty-five years must be brought down. But when freedom-loving, pro-Western Iranians challenged that regime in 2009, at very great risk to themselves, Mr. Obama, Islamist-coddling weak sister that he is, did not even so much as give them verbal support.
    Apparently your unaware of US Iraqi relations during the Reagan era. Us policies of hegemony, imperialism and exploitation isn't going to make friends. There's reasons why America has so many enemies.

    Much like Al Qaeda, the Islamic State (ISIS) is made-in-the-USA, an instrument of terror designed to divide and conquer the oil-rich Middle East and to counter Iran’s growing influence in the region.

    The fact that the United States has a long and torrid history of backing terrorist groups will surprise only those who watch the news and ignore history.

    The CIA first aligned itself with extremist Islam during the Cold War era. Back then, America saw the world in rather simple terms: on one side, the Soviet Union and Third World nationalism, which America regarded as a Soviet tool; on the other side, Western nations and militant political Islam, which America considered an ally in the struggle against the Soviet Union.

    There's a couple.

    How the US Helped Create Al Qaeda and ISIS » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    It is in the interests of the United States for any two regimes that are hostile to us to harm each other as much as possible. I approve of a foreign policy that advances our interests.

    I hope the U.S. will some day have a positive relationship with Iran, just as it has had before. Before that can happen, though, the Khomeinist regime that has been oppressing that country for thirty-five years must be brought down. But when freedom-loving, pro-Western Iranians challenged that regime in 2009, at very great risk to themselves, Mr. Obama, Islamist-coddling weak sister that he is, did not even so much as give them verbal support.
    There was an Iranian protester on live television being interviewed and she skewed from the topic and basically started begging us to help, saying they were killing people left and right, secret police everywhere, etc.

    And the idiotic tv host just kind of froze up. I can't even find that exchange on youtube or anywhere else, but it brought a tear to my eye.

    And it was crickets from Obama, he's on the wrong side of everything-even if he was just inept-occasionally he'd do the right thing, but Im not seeing that.

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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Lol. You quote the worlds biggest supporter of and projector of terrorism to inform your opinion on Iran's use of terrorism, thanks for the chuckle.
    Monte, you are being intellectually lazy again, I have given you a wealth of information, but we know you are simply going to believe whatever it is thats easiest for you.

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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    It is proof when the claims are made by US state and military officials so you have no point here.
    Right, the same people who said that Iraq has WMDs and we must invade... youre not fooling anyone with that ...well maybe the warhawks and neocons but thats to be expected...

    First link is a delusional story with no proof to back it up - it claims it relies solely on some CIA memos and it's an Haaretz article that reports on it so yeah right. Second and third aren't even real sources. Try again.
    Sources are good, you just dont want to believe it since youre a mortal enemy of Iran and an Isreali war crimes apologist so thats to be expected too.

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    Re: Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Right, the same people who said that Iraq has WMDs and we must invade... youre not fooling anyone with that ...well maybe the warhawks and neocons but thats to be expected...
    If anything it is you who is not fooling anyone here as you too I'm certain are fully aware of the part Iran played and continues to play in the killing of US soldiers, we only differ in the fact that while I recognize that truth you are willing to go to embarrassing lengths to cover up for the Shiite terrorists you sympathize with, engaging in ridiculous lies.

    Sources are good, you just dont want to believe it since youre a mortal enemy of Iran and an Isreali war crimes apologist so thats to be expected too.
    Antiwar.com? The Conservative? Give me a break, and Haaretz is a far-left magazine. Quite weird you couldn't find a single mainstream article eh. This has nothing to do with what I'm willing to believe or not, it has to do with the basic reality that these are made up conspiracy theories with nothing to back them up. And you are in no place to be preaching morality considering your support for terrorism and the murder of innocents, so what you may call "war crimes" isn't really war crimes just like your concept of good is evil and of evil is good.
    "The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis."

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