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U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

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Nice words..."benevolent", "assist", "promote".

The problem is, what you do and your claims that your action is benevolent, will assist, promotes. If, by doing something that you claim will do those things, you remove freedoms, prey on those you don't like, punish those who don't do what you think they should, then you are doing more harm than good.

I didn't say anything about preying or punishing. Funny that assistance, promotion and benevolence translate into darkness for you. Such is the conservative mindset.
 
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Read the edit I made to my post...

And then get back on topic.

Good to see you corrected your error. Conservatives here are blaming the democrats for companies holding onto their money. But the world looks as close to another world war as it ever has in the last 70 years.
 
My wife and I run our business exactly so, and it has grown on average 30% anually every year of its existence. And our employees love working for us.

That's nice, I wasn't addressing you. Are you authorized to answer for Dragonfly? :roll:
 
Uh, no. The ACA is doing what it was designed to do to get people health care, and the economy is doing so well that the DOW is up to 17,000 and the corps have all those record profits to hoard.

You're a Lib for a reason, so I wouldn't expect you to understand anything beyond empty talking points and bumper sticker slogans.

The DOWs #s are in no way connected to the economy.

Thanks to QE and ZIRP investors have been pushed out of fixed rate investments and into the equities markets.

If the economy was as good as you libs say it was Corporations wouldn't be hoarding their capital and the FED wouldn't be hoarding Trillions in excess reserves.
 
What would be your solution to this " predatory capitalist " hoarding money ??

" Stimulus to increase aggregate demand " ? Lol !

Tax Increases on corporations ?

Tried and true historically proven approaches a la Keynesian economics- the policies that Democrats have used in the USA to mop up GOP messes since 1933........read Piketty's Capital in the 21st Century.....spot-on...most important book thus far in the 21st century...
 
Good to see you corrected your error. Conservatives here are blaming the democrats for companies holding onto their money. But the world looks as close to another world war as it ever has in the last 70 years.

Yes its the Democrats fault Corporations and Banks are not investing in the American economy.

Thats because the American economy sucks 6 years into Obama's presidency.
 
I didn't say anything about preying or punishing. Funny that assistance, promotion and benevolence translate into darkness for you. Such is the conservative mindset.

If you condone telling people what to spend their own money on and then fining them if they don't, that is punishing people for not doing what you think they should do. If you condone telling corporations to spend their own money on what you think they should spend their money on and then fine them for not doing it, that is punishing them. If you tell the wealthy to do something just because they have more money than the poor, you are preying on the wealthy.

It doesn't matter if you think doing all these things result in your "good" things...benevolence, assistance, promotion. Unlike the typical liberal mindset, the ends do NOT justify the means.
 
If they buy the Dallas Cowboys 437 times they will be the proud owners of 437 losing teams....

it should come as no surprise that predatory capitalists are hoarding cash.....anymore than the sun rises in the east.....they spend it freely on efforts to obstruct economic, social and political justice which means essentially that they support the Republican party....who are indeed the "Handmaidens of the Boardroom" ... Thus as it's ever been .

Wall Street Donations 2014 figures not finalized yet

Securities & Investment

Election
Donations to Democrats Donations to Republicans
2006 $42.3 million $37.1 million
2008 $100.5 million $74 million
2010 $49.1 million $50.8 million
2012 $59.3 million $130.9 million
2014 $17.6 million $30 million

Hedge Funds

Election Donations to Democrats Donations to Republicans
2006 $4.17 million $1.44 million
2008 $13.3 million $6.6 million
2010 $5.88 million $6.4 million
2012 $4.06 million $12.5 million
2014 $1.75 million $3.69 million

Business
Election Donations to Democrats Donations to Republicans
2006 510.4 million $645.1 million
2008 $1.1 billion $917.4 million
2010 $654.6 million $632.1 million
2012 $883.4 million $1.27 billion
2014 $228.5 million $316.4 million

What is interesting here is the party who controls congress seems to get the most money from wall street.
 
Yes its the Democrats fault Corporations and Banks are not investing in the American economy.

Thats because the American economy sucks 6 years into Obama's presidency.

Bush broke it, and Obama's been working to fix it while the GOP has been a force of opposition. Wouldn't it look bad for a republican president to ruin the economy and a democratic president to fix it.
 
If you condone telling people what to spend their own money on and then fining them if they don't, that is punishing people for not doing what you think they should do. If you condone telling corporations to spend their own money on what you think they should spend their money on and then fine them for not doing it, that is punishing them. If you tell the wealthy to do something just because they have more money than the poor, you are preying on the wealthy.

It doesn't matter if you think doing all these things result in your "good" things...benevolence, assistance, promotion. Unlike the typical liberal mindset, the ends do NOT justify the means.

You keep saying me. But I've been clear from the beginning that there is a role for government to play. If you disagree with aspects of the governments role, you know what you have to do.
 
Wall Street Donations 2014 figures not finalized yet

Securities & Investment

Election
Donations to Democrats Donations to Republicans
2006 $42.3 million $37.1 million
2008 $100.5 million $74 million
2010 $49.1 million $50.8 million
2012 $59.3 million $130.9 million
2014 $17.6 million $30 million

Hedge Funds

Election Donations to Democrats Donations to Republicans
2006 $4.17 million $1.44 million
2008 $13.3 million $6.6 million
2010 $5.88 million $6.4 million
2012 $4.06 million $12.5 million
2014 $1.75 million $3.69 million

Business
Election Donations to Democrats Donations to Republicans
2006 510.4 million $645.1 million
2008 $1.1 billion $917.4 million
2010 $654.6 million $632.1 million
2012 $883.4 million $1.27 billion
2014 $228.5 million $316.4 million

What is interesting here is the party who controls congress seems to get the most money from wall street.

Wall street is but one avenue through which corporatist money is funneled .....see Koch Brothers et. al. for details....
 
Good to see you corrected your error. Conservatives here are blaming the democrats for companies holding onto their money. But the world looks as close to another world war as it ever has in the last 70 years.

I didn't correct any error. My edit was simply an attempt to get you to keep on topic.

And now you are going off in another direction...talking about what conservatives here are doing. I am not "conservatives here". I speak for myself.

I haven't blamed Democrats for companies holding on to their money. I've only spoken against lefties thinking they have a right to tell companies what they must spend their money on.

What on earth has war to do with anything I've talked about?

Dude...you are tossing irrelevant stuff against the wall. It won't stick.
 
Tried and true historically proven approaches a la Keynesian economics- the policies that Democrats have used in the USA to mop up GOP messes since 1933........read Piketty's Capital in the 21st Century.....spot-on...most important book thus far in the 21st century...

Progressive nonsense...

Japan blew through 10 Stimulus packages in the 90s spending more than 10 Trillion Yen on things like " infrastructure "

All it did was grow their debt and paper over the fundamental economic issues.

Well PM Abe stepped in and iniated 4 more Stimulus packages and monetary stimulus on top of that.

Now the only creditor buying Japanese bonds is theor own zombie banks and the Japanese Government is having to dedicate 40 percent of their total revenue just to pay interest on their record debt

Just a 2 point climb in their rates and Japan would have to dedicate 100 percent of their total revenue just to pay interest on their debt.

The Japanese economy is shrinking and their consumers are getting fleeced by IDIOTIC PROGRESSIVE economic " solutions ".

You have no idea what your'e talking about but of-course thats a given.

" Progressive Power " !!! Lol ..
 
You keep saying me. But I've been clear from the beginning that there is a role for government to play. If you disagree with aspects of the governments role, you know what you have to do.

I'm disagreeing with your contentions about what the government's role is. You think they should do those "good" things you spoke of. I think they should leave people alone and mind their own business...you know, do what they are required to do in the Constitution.
 
Bush broke it, and Obama's been working to fix it while the GOP has been a force of opposition. Wouldn't it look bad for a republican president to ruin the economy and a democratic president to fix it.

No, the Democrats " broke it " back when Clinton and the Democrats co-opted the GSEs into the Sub prime market.

And Obamas been working to fix what exactly ?

What has he done exactly ?
 
Wall street is but one avenue through which corporatist money is funneled .....see Koch Brothers et. al. for details....

You can say what you wish. Corporations donated more money to Democrats from 2006-2009 mainly because they controlled congress. In July of 2010 that changed and the Republicans became the beneficiaries of corporations. Now why would that change? In July of 2010 the hand writing was on the wall the GOP would win the House. Corporations and Wall Street want our politicians to owe them, one way they can accomplish this is through millions of dollars in campaign donations.

You mention Koch, the GOP would mention Soros. What is the difference? None really. In fact many corporations and Wall Street donate to both candidates and parties. They will donate the most to whom they think will win, but they also donate less to the other candidate. This way no matter who wins they are owed.

As I stated, the party who controls congress always gets the most money. The reason is simple, incumbents usually win.
 
You can say what you wish. Corporations donated more money to Democrats from 2006-2009 mainly because they controlled congress. In July of 2010 that changed and the Republicans became the beneficiaries of corporations. Now why would that change? In July of 2010 the hand writing was on the wall the GOP would win the House. Corporations and Wall Street want our politicians to owe them, one way they can accomplish this is through millions of dollars in campaign donations.

You mention Koch, the GOP would mention Soros. What is the difference? None really. In fact many corporations and Wall Street donate to both candidates and parties. They will donate the most to whom they think will win, but they also donate less to the other candidate. This way no matter who wins they are owed.

As I stated, the party who controls congress always gets the most money. The reason is simple, incumbents usually win.

What's the difference between the Koch Brothers and Soros?! If you have to ask, you haven't been paying attention, mate! :)
 
I'm sure everyone has ideas on what people or companies should do with their money, but does anyone have the right to tell people or businesses what to do with their money? Do you? Does the government?


if they are corporations, absolutely so.
 
Yes its the Democrats fault Corporations and Banks are not investing in the American economy.

Thats because the American economy sucks 6 years into Obama's presidency.


please provide the quantified metrics and citations you use to evaluate this claim.
 
if they are corporations, absolutely so.

Really? You have the right to tell businesses what to do with their money? Or you think the government has that right? Please be clear about that, eh?
 
me through the govt, absolutely.

Please quote the relevant portion of the Constitution that gives you the right to tell these US companies what they must do with all that money they are "hoarding".
 
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