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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Lots of Canadians go to the US for healthcare, whether because the service isn't offered here or because the service is offered here but the wait will kill you.
    and are you going to mention that this is often covered by the Canadian health care system?

    sorry, but you guys would be nuts to swap health care systems with us. like many other things in America, if you're rich, it's pretty good. if your really poor, you might be able to get medicaid, which is also decent. if you're the wrong kind of poor or middle class, though, do not get sick. you're the one whose paying for everything, and they will bleed you dry and sell the corpse.

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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Lots of Canadians go to the US for healthcare, whether because the service isn't offered here or because the service is offered here but the wait will kill you.
    And a lot of americans go to Mexico and Thailand for medical care.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Can. Not. Happen.


    Any politician who so much as mentions 'health care reform' will be instantly stoned, vilified and sent to Baffin Island to count pine trees. There are three things Canadians will not ever discuss: abortion; health care reform beyond throwing more money at it, and the constitution.

    MP's who have mentioned abortion are pretty much history if remembered at all, since a guy named Brian Mulroney no one has dared mention constitution, Quebec's roll or even a mention a lake in Quebec whose name rhymes with leech. There was a conservative candidate here in the Vancouver area who mentioned health care reform, no one has seen him in a decade.
    good. if i were a Canadian and somebody proposed throwing me to the wolves, i'd definitely vote for the other guy, too.

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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    That quote would also apply to Obama's promises about keeping your doctor and insurance and the Democrats claims that these policies would be " affordable ".

    If if supply side doesn't works what does ?

    Just curious to see if you know anything othet than simple talking points
    It was an attempt to lower the increase in medical insurance and costs which it has done to a degree. It was also an attempt to get more people covered rather than have emergency rooms overflowing and have them seek out more preventive care which is cheaper. The funding solution was to have a larger base hence the mandate. Quite reasonable really, just like car insurance. If you drive you need car insurance, if you need medical you get medical insurance but not just when you get sick. The employer provided system was getting quite a bit more expensive there was also no coverage for preexisting conditions and individual plans were cost prohibited for many. I prefer a single based payer like Canada but cons would object so he tried a quasi market based approach. What's your solution?
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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    and are you going to mention that this is often covered by the Canadian health care system?

    sorry, but you guys would be nuts to swap health care systems with us. like many other things in America, if you're rich, it's pretty good. if your really poor, you might be able to get medicaid, which is also decent. if you're the wrong kind of poor or middle class, though, do not get sick. you're the one whose paying for everything, and they will bleed you dry and sell the corpse.
    No, it's not covered by the healthcare system. If the service is offered under the Canadian program, the government will not fund it if you jump the line and seek the procedure in the US. They will fund it if they deem that they cannot offer the procedure or a similar one here but first you have to go through a bureaucratic nightmare to get that prior approval. We've had lots of cases, even young children going blind, whose parents have had to pay for the US care themselves. We have some people who have been denied and went to the US anyway to save their lives and then come back to Canada and sued to be reimbursed.

    But hey, the grass is always greener on the other side.
    A Canadian conservative is one who believes in limited government and that the government should stay out of our wallets and out of our bedrooms.

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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    ok. i'll happily trade you our ****ed up system for yours. if we could, would you?

    full disclosure : i paid almost two grand because i cut my thumb a couple years ago. they superglued it shut, and gave me a tetanus shot. forty five minutes. the best part is that two companies sent me bills for the same service. i had to pay both. i have insurance.

    please say that you would trade health care systems. i have many more examples, and i am willing to hash them out with you.
    It sounds like you got ripped off. It does not sound like the norm. Did you go to the ER? An urgent care center? Or your primary care doc? With insurance, you should have been stuck with nothing more then whatever your copay was for the treatment and meds if they prescribed any.(At least prior to obamacare).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Sure as ****, this Canadian certainly would not.

    BTW, my 85 year-old dad -- who's had cancer 3 times -- just got a new hip last week. He had to wait about 4 months.

    No death panels for him.
    In the private sector in the US, there are no waiting periods for hip implants. Perhaps it's different on Medicare.

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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    like three hundred a month and maybe ten grand for a serious injury thousands?

    i never argued that Canadian health care was free. i argued that most of them wouldn't trade health care systems with us.
    Nor would any senior citizen who is on medicare trade it as they paid into it all their lives. John's point is that he has to pay for the Canadian system whether he uses it or not. When I become qualified for medicare in less then three years, I will go ahead and sign up for it, even though I will likely keep using VA Healthcare as my primary care option. I think Medicare is a horrible government Ponzi scheme that I should not have been forced to pay into. However I am going to get at least some return on all the money I paid into it. My point is that asking anyone if they would trade a government run system that they are forced to pay into is a bit of a loaded question.

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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by Hari Seldon View Post
    Sure we do. Most eloquently stated in the movie Cool Hand Luke. "Don't piss down my back and tell me its raining." That about sums up the trickle down theory.
    You don't even understand the meaning of the Cool Hand Luke statement. Your problem is that you are more into rhetoric then reality. If you understood the concept of trickle down economics, you would easily work out that it has always been a part of any economy based on free enterprise.

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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    trust me, man, the health care distribution model was ****ed up long before the ACA. you wouldn't have traded for it then, either.
    If I were a Canadian, I would trade....however I would make they trade by emigrating to the US(Prior to Obamacare). I would not pay the healthcare taxes the Canadians are paying.

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