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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    If they copy ObamaCare, then yes they're making a huge mistake.

    Single payer in America means that a massive Government entity that has proven itself to be highly unethical would have total control over the Healthcare of US citizens.

    We've seen how this Government treats vets and we've seen that there's little to no accountability or recourse for the people who where left waiting for treatment.

    The left attacks the private health care industry and Physicians with charges of unethical conduct but ignores the huge ethical lapse thats at the center of ObamaCare.

    Single payer would be a disaster.
    yeah, a disaster.

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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

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    You have a graph for that shows the impact of Single payers in America ?

    In a Country of over 300 Million that cannot for some reason secure its Southern Border ?

    Americans have already been lied to by Democrats who thought they had a better plan. Why on earth would we trust them with something so daunting and massive as single payer system ?

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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    You have a graph for that shows the impact of Single payers in America ?

    In a Country of over 300 Million that cannot for some reason secure its Southern Border ?

    Americans have already been lied to by Democrats who thought they had a better plan. Why on earth would we trust them with something so daunting and massive as single payer system ?
    the ACA isn't single payer. single payer actually works in other first world countries.

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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

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    the ACA isn't single payer. single payer actually works in other first world countries.
    Well, 'works'. It's not a panacea, but it's sure a lot better than how we tackle health care today!

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    You have a graph for that shows the impact of Single payers in America ?
    In a Country of over 300 Million that cannot for some reason secure its Southern Border ?
    Americans have already been lied to by Democrats who thought they had a better plan. Why on earth would we trust them with something so daunting and massive as single payer system ?
    There's political opposition to "securing" the US-Mexico border, myself and other fiscal hawks (it's expensive) and free-movement libertarians (e.g., folks who live on the border and don't want to stand in line for 3+ hours waiting to go to a store on the other side of the city). Not having a border fence is not a demonstration of dysfunction; it's a demonstration of meeting halfway between two different interests in a democratic country.

    Second point. First payer systems are common. If all of these poorer-than-the-US, corrupt and even more dysfunctional countries can cobble together a single-payer system and have it "work," American exceptionalism can do it too.
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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    the ACA isn't single payer. single payer actually works in other first world countries.
    So ethical lapses are only bad when you can attribute them to the private sector ?

    See when a private Corporation or company does something unethical the consumer has some semblence of recourse depending on the severity of the lapse.

    From the appealing to the Federal Trade Commission to just chosing the never do bussiness there again the Consumer has options.

    If the Democrats make promises they cannot keep and manage to push through single payer there is nothing the average American can do.

    Its irresponsible to give Government that level of power but it is the height of irresponsibility to give the new Democrat party this power.

    They're aadvertising that they will not be held accountable and you still want to put your trust in them.

    Wow....not me.

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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    if Canada actually adopts anything close to the US health care distribution system, then you guys are making a massive mistake.
    Lots of Canadians go to the US for healthcare, whether because the service isn't offered here or because the service is offered here but the wait will kill you.
    A Canadian conservative is one who believes in limited government and that the government should stay out of our wallets and out of our bedrooms.

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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    if Canada actually adopts anything close to the US health care distribution system, then you guys are making a massive mistake.
    Can. Not. Happen.


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    MP's who have mentioned abortion are pretty much history if remembered at all, since a guy named Brian Mulroney no one has dared mention constitution, Quebec's roll or even a mention a lake in Quebec whose name rhymes with leech. There was a conservative candidate here in the Vancouver area who mentioned health care reform, no one has seen him in a decade.
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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    If they copy ObamaCare, then yes they're making a huge mistake.

    Single payer in America means that a massive Government entity that has proven itself to be highly unethical would have total control over the Healthcare of US citizens.

    We've seen how this Government treats vets and we've seen that there's little to no accountability or recourse for the people who where left waiting for treatment.

    The left attacks the private health care industry and Physicians with charges of unethical conduct but ignores the huge ethical lapse thats at the center of ObamaCare.

    Single payer would be a disaster.


    No, see above.

    However, I happen to know that some Canadian health economists are on contract with Ottawa to study and watch Obamacare - the real numbers not the politicized ones, to see if it is a reasonable means to expand health coverage to dental and, maybe pharmacy costs. However, I suggest it will be a quarter century at least until Canadians will even listen to anything that could be compared to Obamacare.

    Last week, the headline story on local news at 6 was how American doctors, especially specialists, are giving up their new practices to move to Canada because of Obamacare....they had two examples.

    Obamcare has become the evil part of America, 'for profit' in medicine and insurance does not work here, five or six out of ten provinces have provincially owned motor insurance
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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Lots of Canadians go to the US for healthcare, whether because the service isn't offered here or because the service is offered here but the wait will kill you.
    and some simply because they can...even Prime Ministers who have to lie about where they were when a king dies....

    And some provincial governments, mine, will fly serious cases to Seattle and San Fransisco if there are serious back logs in certain areas, heart being a big one.

    However, if you want hip surgery, you will be in pain for a year or more
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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    So ethical lapses are only bad when you can attribute them to the private sector ?

    See when a private Corporation or company does something unethical the consumer has some semblence of recourse depending on the severity of the lapse.

    From the appealing to the Federal Trade Commission to just chosing the never do bussiness there again the Consumer has options.

    If the Democrats make promises they cannot keep and manage to push through single payer there is nothing the average American can do.

    Its irresponsible to give Government that level of power but it is the height of irresponsibility to give the new Democrat party this power.

    They're aadvertising that they will not be held accountable and you still want to put your trust in them.

    Wow....not me.
    last i checked, even the Democrats weren't seriously pushing for single payer. they had their chance, and they went with a for profit half measure that does almost nothing to force down costs and which leaves the stupid employer-specific health insurance model in place.

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