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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    like three hundred a month and maybe ten grand for a serious injury thousands?

    i never argued that Canadian health care was free. i argued that most of them wouldn't trade health care systems with us.
    You are quite correct. In fact, overwhelmingly so. It's not ofter you see that much of a majority.

    An overwhelming 94-percent of Canadians support public - not private, for-profit - solutions to making the country's healthcare system stronger - with an equal number of Conservatives flying the banner for public health care.
    CANADIAN HEALTH COALITION | Support for public health care soars: 94% of Canadians - including Conservatives - choose public over for-profit solutions
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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeard View Post
    All markets are regulated, all effective markets have underlying structure that allows buyers to send (and sellers to receive) signals based on price and quality. Such is life in the real world.

    The tax penalty is there in this case because insurance markets have a well-known problem called adverse selection which requires some sort of intervention to correct.
    You're not making any sense.

    Free markets cannot function without the voluntary aspect.

    Two parties coming to a mutual agreement based on price have to have the freedom to not participate and walk away from the transaction.

    ObamaCare is me the buyer via threats and duress being told to purchase a product that was never vetted through a voluntary process that is fundamental in the efficient allocation of goods and services based on price.

    Mandates and price controls corrupt free market principles because value is based off of a bunch of arbitrary beuaracratic standards.

    And you and or the Democrats have no leg to stand on when it comes to criticizing the ethics of Insurance companies or anyone else for that matter.

    At the core of ObamaCare is a unprecedented ethical lapse involving the misrepresentation of a product for purely Political purposes by the President of the United States and the Democrat party.

    A misrepresentation thats still happening to some degree thanks to Left wing websites and political forums and message boards.

    Everyone who purchases a ObamaCare Policy is not purchasing what was advertised by our Government. Even after years of misrepresentation and outright lies the consumer is left with one option. Purchase or else

    There is no recourse for the consumer what so ever. So you guys should step down off your High horse.
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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    ok. i'll happily trade you our ****ed up system for yours. if we could, would you?

    full disclosure : i paid almost two grand because i cut my thumb a couple years ago. they superglued it shut, and gave me a tetanus shot. forty five minutes. the best part is that two companies sent me bills for the same service. i had to pay both. i have insurance.

    please say that you would trade health care systems. i have many more examples, and i am willing to hash them out with you.
    Asked and answered - I previously indicated that I wouldn't give up our basic single payer system for the reasons I stated above - if you didn't get it then, perhaps you could reread my post.

    You could ask the same question in America - how many people wanted to give up their health insurance coverage for the ACA before it was enacted? after it's been enacted?

    You seem to have this idea that I hate my own insurance or that I hate the ACA. I'm simply participating in the discussion here. Just because I point out what I see as problems with the ACA doesn't mean that I'm going to give up my system - that's a false choice/strawman argument that doesn't take away from my comments at all.

    I've been on record, in several threads here, that Americans would be better off with a single payer system but you haven't the culture, history, legal or tax chops to do it.
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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Your problem is that you don't understand the concept of trickle down.
    Sure we do. Most eloquently stated in the movie Cool Hand Luke. "Don't piss down my back and tell me its raining." That about sums up the trickle down theory.
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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Asked and answered - I previously indicated that I wouldn't give up our basic single payer system for the reasons I stated above - if you didn't get it then, perhaps you could reread my post.

    You could ask the same question in America - how many people wanted to give up their health insurance coverage for the ACA before it was enacted? after it's been enacted?

    You seem to have this idea that I hate my own insurance or that I hate the ACA. I'm simply participating in the discussion here. Just because I point out what I see as problems with the ACA doesn't mean that I'm going to give up my system - that's a false choice/strawman argument that doesn't take away from my comments at all.

    I've been on record, in several threads here, that Americans would be better off with a single payer system but you haven't the culture, history, legal or tax chops to do it.
    trust me, man, the health care distribution model was ****ed up long before the ACA. you wouldn't have traded for it then, either.

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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by Hari Seldon View Post
    Sure we do. Most eloquently stated in the movie Cool Hand Luke. "Don't piss down my back and tell me its raining." That about sums up the trickle down theory.
    That quote would also apply to Obama's promises about keeping your doctor and insurance and the Democrats claims that these policies would be " affordable ".

    If if supply side doesn't works what does ?

    Just curious to see if you know anything othet than simple talking points

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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    trust me, man, the health care distribution model was ****ed up long before the ACA. you wouldn't have traded for it then, either.
    Here in Canada, we're actually moving more and more towards the US model of private entities delivering healthcare services to the highest bidder. It's currently against the Canada Health Act which requires that no private, for profit, entity can provide services covered by the universal healthcare system. That is currently being challenged in the courts as contrary to our constitution and it's likely to be a successful challenge. At that point, Canada will become open for business and it wouldn't surprise me if many American healthcare service providers expand into Canada in the next decade. This is all because our single payer system has badly failed due to top heavy bureaucratic government management and gross waste of taxpayer dollars on inefficiencies.
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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Ontario has and continues to accept the vast majority of all refugee claimants entering Canada. The federal government, several years back, passed legislation defunding all but the very basic in healthcare coverage for this group of people until such time as their claims have been adjudicated and accepted. Ontario, losing the federal funding, decided to slap the Ontario taxpayers with those hundreds of $millions, if not $billions in costs. We have people here claiming refugee status and immediately getting their teeth fixed and other medical procedures taken care of before they get kicked out of the country. I'm sure the system is highlighted in travel brochures around the world.

    We also have extremely generous healthcare coverage for those on welfare and the working poor, far in excess of what coverage the average Ontarian gets - I wouldn't be surprised if that's a major factor in your Province's costs being lower. But hey, we've had liberals in power in Ontario for 12 years, doubling our Provincial debt with no end in sight, so it wouldn't be hard for another Province to out preform us.


    The NDP here like to hold Ontario up as the statistical example of what we should be.....

    The package available to immigrants is very shallow here, and no one gets dental coverage of any kind.

    Having had some experience with the system as a journalist, the big cost savings we have is in lower administrative costs. When the socialists got kicked out in 2000, we had hospital administrators in numbers at three levels and two operating authorities for every hospital.

    I would like to see more spent, especially on mental illness. Only the very screwed up get any kind of effective treatment, and then the waiting lists can be years.

    It is not the Ontario I knew and loved. I have to say I sometimes long to return, have some snow fr a change, hard wood trees, flat land and all that.....and the cost of living here is worse than Toronto. But my aunt died of cancer there, she was improperly diagnosed and because no cancer treatment in Kitchener, Waterloo, Cambridge, by the time she was seen in London it was inoperable. If that happened here in the land of Terry Fox it would possibly be a government killer. There are two things where you get instant treatment, show signs of any cancer and mention a possible heart attack. I was in a very bad car accident where the EMT's mis-diagnosed, said I had had a possible heart attack as cause of the accident. Nine hours in emerg to test for that, and was in front of a cardiologist in five days. But if you suffer from depression, you may never get effective treatment.
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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Here in Canada, we're actually moving more and more towards the US model of private entities delivering healthcare services to the highest bidder. It's currently against the Canada Health Act which requires that no private, for profit, entity can provide services covered by the universal healthcare system. That is currently being challenged in the courts as contrary to our constitution and it's likely to be a successful challenge. At that point, Canada will become open for business and it wouldn't surprise me if many American healthcare service providers expand into Canada in the next decade. This is all because our single payer system has badly failed due to top heavy bureaucratic government management and gross waste of taxpayer dollars on inefficiencies.
    if Canada actually adopts anything close to the US health care distribution system, then you guys are making a massive mistake.

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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    if Canada actually adopts anything close to the US health care distribution system, then you guys are making a massive mistake.
    If they copy ObamaCare, then yes they're making a huge mistake.

    Single payer in America means that a massive Government entity that has proven itself to be highly unethical would have total control over the Healthcare of US citizens.

    We've seen how this Government treats vets and we've seen that there's little to no accountability or recourse for the people who where left waiting for treatment.

    The left attacks the private health care industry and Physicians with charges of unethical conduct but ignores the huge ethical lapse thats at the center of ObamaCare.

    Single payer would be a disaster.

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