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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Are you saying that by way of taxation, compassionate conservatives demonstrate their sense of conscience? I don't see what you're saying.
    Demonstrating one's sense of conscience isn't required. What is required is funding the government and corporations already do that in spades, both directly and indirectly through taxes collected on wages paid. Anything else isn't their problem nor mine.

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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    LOL It doesn't mean the wealthy will piss on us if we give them tax breaks? Since it never happened I don't really see why I should care about your "concept of trickle down". Most of us are worse off than when supply-side coddling began.
    Again, your ignorance of the concept of trickle down
    is on display. I would explain it to you in great detail, however I doubt you would listen objectively enough to grasp it,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    1) one time bonuses for employees
    2) cut prices and see if sales increase and even more profits are made
    3) give out raises
    4) provide more benefits to employees
    5) provide an actual and HONEST cost of living increase to employees
    All of those hurt the immediate, short term profit margin, which is what most execs seem to care most about these days.


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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Essentially I agree with you--I think every successful company should have cash reserves, every individual should have savings and cash reserves.

    The point is that (from my previous post) various ratios are going the wrong way, assuming one buys into that romantic notion that ours is a democratic society in which anybody willing to work hard can get ahead and support a family, and that all men are equal before the law.

    Do compassionate corporations exist, or is the bottom line the only thing that drives American industry today?
    There ACTUALLY IS a trend towards a new corporate entity called B corps.
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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    LMFGDAO!!!


    your white flag is accepted.

    but since you asked...........
    http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2...aph.png?g=152M
    On the other hand, we have this...from your source...which supports the AEI analysis:

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    Federal government total expenditures - FRED - St. Louis Fed

    Obama chose not to reverse that elevated level of spending; thus he, along with congressional Democrats, are responsible for it. Only by establishing 2009 as the new baseline, something Republican budget hawks like Paul Ryan feared would happen, does Obama come off looking like a tightwad. Obama has turned a one-off surge in spending due to the Great Recession into his permanent New Normal through 2016 and beyond.

    http://www.aei.org/publication/actua...ly-did-happen/

    (Sorry...no white flag waving from me)
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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    On the other hand, we have this...from your source...which supports the AEI analysis:

    um, no it does not support the AEI analysis. I'm not sure how spending (nominal) vs spending (as a % of gdp) is confusing you. No wonder you can't read in your link that it's from 2012, and was wrong, to boot.

    With that said though, it was nice of you to show a chart that, if adjusted for inflation (aka real $), which reveals Obama to be a spending decreaser.


    Do you routinely enjoy destroying your own arguments?

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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    um, no it does not support the AEI analysis. I'm not sure how spending (nominal) vs spending (as a % of gdp) is confusing you. No wonder you can't read in your link that it's from 2012, and was wrong, to boot.

    With that said though, it was nice of you to show a chart that, if adjusted for inflation (aka real $), which reveals Obama to be a spending decreaser.


    Do you routinely enjoy destroying your own arguments?
    You need to learn to read. Start with the quote I gave you, compare that to the graphic I gave you. They correspond.

    And the graphic I gave you shows no spending decrease during Obama's Presidency.

    Here, I've refined the parameters of the graph so you can see spending during Obama's Presidency. No real reduction visible.

    Federal government total expenditures - FRED - St. Louis Fed

    He's kept it at that absurdly high level the whole time. Which means your liberal article writer got caught with his spin down around his ankles.
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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    in which of those is the government owning the means of production of an industry?
    Ah, another one who cannot actually comprehend but is quick to quote without actual understanding. You might also want to check your source because you are using a very narrow definition that not even many socialist use. Government ownership does not equal socialism. Further, as none of your fellow socialist have been able to give a actual answer, perhaps you can explain what the realistic difference between total control with the confiscation of profits and outright ownership is?

    Socialism is any, usually leftist, philosophies that place society, not the individual, as the center of societies and characterized by the suppression of individual freedoms in the name of "the good of society". All leftist are on the socialism side of the scale.

    You will also find direct references to Unions and Taxes in Marx's Communist Manifesto.
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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    You need to learn to read. Start with the quote I gave you, compare that to the graphic I gave you. They correspond.

    And the graphic I gave you shows no spending decrease during Obama's Presidency.

    Here, I've refined the parameters of the graph so you can see spending during Obama's Presidency. No real reduction visible.

    Federal government total expenditures - FRED - St. Louis Fed

    He's kept it at that absurdly high level the whole time.
    reading fail, understanding fail, and now---- LINK fail.

    Strike 3.

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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Ah, another one who cannot actually comprehend but is quick to quote without actual understanding. You might also want to check your source because you are using a very narrow definition that not even many socialist use. Government ownership does not equal socialism. Further, as none of your fellow socialist have been able to give a actual answer, perhaps you can explain what the realistic difference between total control with the confiscation of profits and outright ownership is?

    Socialism is any, usually leftist, philosophies that place society, not the individual, as the center of societies and characterized by the suppression of individual freedoms in the name of "the good of society". All leftist are on the socialism side of the scale.

    You will also find direct references to Unions and Taxes in Marx's Communist Manifesto.

    "a way of organizing a society in which major industries are owned and controlled by the government rather than by individual people and companies"
    Socialism - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

    "a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole. "
    Socialism | Define Socialism at Dictionary.com


    try harder next time.

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