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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Essentially I agree with you--I think every successful company should have cash reserves, every individual should have savings and cash reserves.

    The point is that (from my previous post) various ratios are going the wrong way, assuming one buys into that romantic notion that ours is a democratic society in which anybody willing to work hard can get ahead and support a family, and that all men are equal before the law.

    Do compassionate corporations exist, or is the bottom line the only thing that drives American industry today?
    Is it more compassionate to do what corporations are doing now or to allow society to continue down the road to the bankruptcy of socialism? What is or is not compassionate is often a matter of perspective.

    Why are those ratios going the wrong way? What is the level of actual competition in most market segments? How many companies are restricted in what they can pay and benefits because unions and laws force them to keep undesirable employees? Are companies really that non-compassionate or is it a case of media exaggeration of a biased issue?

    Walmart, Lowes and many other companies have many people who started at or near the bottom but are now in management and worked their way up. Why is it the ones that are unable to do so we always see complaining on the news? Why do we only see or hear about the stories that feed hysteria and focus on expanding socialist like controls?
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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Again you reply with the income inequality slogan (mantra?), implying, but never stating how or by who the ratio can be changed. You seem to imply that some correct ratio exists between any given CEO's compensation and that of their "average" worker and that "someone" must assure that this is made so. That seems to require that "someone" do two basic things: 1) establish a "correct" ratio and 2) either lower the CEO compensation or raise the compensation of the "average" worker to attain that ratio.

    You now have created a serious dilemma; the larger the corporation/company then the more that the CEO is responsible for, and yet a cashier, shelf stocker or forklift operator does the same "little" job regardless of how large that their employer happens to be, there are simply more of them working for the larger company. If we set the CEO's pay based on the average worker's pay (using some ratio) then the CEO of Walmart would be paid the same as the CEO of Dollar General (or any smaller retail operation).

    A similar dilemma occurs for companies that use more highly paid "average" employees, such as the NBA or a pharmaceutical developer - should the CEO of the NBA or Big Pharma make "way more" than the CEO of Walmart or Burger King?
    If it ever came to pass, what I'm trying to find, the mechanics and rules of how the change might come about would be established by committee, not by me. I merely express an idea.

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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Is it more compassionate to do what corporations are doing now or to allow society to continue down the road to the bankruptcy of socialism? What is or is not compassionate is often a matter of perspective.

    Why are those ratios going the wrong way? What is the level of actual competition in most market segments? How many companies are restricted in what they can pay and benefits because unions and laws force them to keep undesirable employees? Are companies really that non-compassionate or is it a case of media exaggeration of a biased issue?

    Walmart, Lowes and many other companies have many people who started at or near the bottom but are now in management and worked their way up. Why is it the ones that are unable to do so we always see complaining on the news? Why do we only see or hear about the stories that feed hysteria and focus on expanding socialist like controls?
    Humans complain easily. It is second nature for many of them, and truly a bipartisan example of social behavior.

    So my position here has been one of curiosity. I wonder what the ideal in theory would be the ratio between average CEO and average worker?

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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Companies have $1.4 trillion in cash. Will they spend it? - Mar. 20, 2015



    I have a few thoughts on what they could do with it.
    Not enough, they need another tax break.
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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    I'm wondering where this "notion of equality" thing that you mention comes from. Is that something you've dreamed up? It's certainly something that doesn't exist in reality when considering someone's right to make decisions about the use of their own property or money?
    I happily admit to being an idealist, yes.

    And I understand that reality is seldom ideal, that Utopia is not an option when it comes to government policy as interpreted by reality, not the ideal.

    But when talking in theory, especially about government policy, one should at least include the ideal, strive for the ideal.

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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    focus on expanding socialist like controls?

    examples?

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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Yes...this is all well and good...from a liberal commentator with liberal spin applied.

    But there's more to the story, as told by the American Enterprise Institute: Actually, the Obama spending binge really did happen - AEI | Economics Blog AEIdeas


    Attachment 67182212

    Is there a reason you used incorrect data/chart to try to make some point?

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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    examples?
    EPA, OSHA, High corporate taxes to fund social programs, Unions/No national right to work, Minimum Wage, Mandated Benefits, Affirmative action, Obama, Clinton, Pelosi, Reid, etc, etc.
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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    yeah, like maybe give workers some job security and slightly higher wages.
    Perhaps if Obamacare is repealed, they might do so.

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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Some people have the... Well not right... But the power to tell the business what to do with their money.

    They are the investors.

    Hoarding cash during the recession? Fine. Hoarding cash when the recession is over? The companies better give the investors a good reason is all I can say.

    If I were the investors I'd start questioning soon.
    Most business are smart enough to invest their money only if there is a reasonable chance of making a profit off of such investment. That patently stupid Ponzi scheme known as Obamacare is making labor so expensive that it's hard to make a profit.

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