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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Obama has spent less money than Bush OR Reagan. Who Is The Smallest Government Spender Since Eisenhower? Would You Believe It's Barack Obama? - Forbes
    Like Carter and Vietnam, Obama got stuck with a helluva bill. His abilities to at the very least keep our heads above water and save US from complete collapse is what's making his presidency. For the record, Obama is no friend of mine, but I know very well what's been going on and his policies have at the very least stabilized the economy into the upswing that we have now. QE BTW has gotten the demand side spending which is what its designed to do.

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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Obama has spent less money than Bush OR Reagan. Who Is The Smallest Government Spender Since Eisenhower? Would You Believe It's Barack Obama? - Forbes
    Like Carter and Vietnam, Obama got stuck with a helluva bill. His abilities to at the very least keep our heads above water and save US from complete collapse is what's making his presidency. For the record, Obama is no friend of mine, but I know very well what's been going on and his policies have at the very least stabilized the economy into the upswing that we have now. QE BTW has gotten the demand side spending which is what its designed to do.

    Your hate for Obama is clouding your ability to read the signs.
    Yes...this is all well and good...from a liberal commentator with liberal spin applied.

    But there's more to the story, as told by the American Enterprise Institute: Actually, the Obama spending binge really did happen - AEI | Economics Blog » AEIdeas


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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    The money will "trickle down" when the time is right.
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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    When discussing wages one must first define what is a right or wrong wage. If two qualified candidates apply for a given position is it right or wrong to hire the one asking for a lower wage? Is it right or wrong to base wages on the number of dependents that a given worker has (the "living wage" concept)? Obviously some workers will do faster and/or higher quality work than others (in a given position) - is it right or wrong to pay those "higher performing" workers more even though they are supposed (alleged?) to be doing the same job?
    I would say it would be right and good to incorporate into the pay structure a means to pay some sort of bonus to the worker who performs better than others. Whether by promotion or bonus, high performance should be rewarded somehow.

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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen.Seven View Post
    They already do that, it's called taxation. They do their part, moreso in fact. Same with the 1%. They already do more than me, and I do more than-93% of the workforce. I don't speak for sny corporation, but I know I'm done.
    Are you saying that by way of taxation, compassionate conservatives demonstrate their sense of conscience? I don't see what you're saying.

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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    How, exactly, would you go about changing that ratio? My earnings (self employed handyman) are not affected by what a CEO makes, nor is what the CEO makes affected by my earnings. Do you propose that a national pay scale be established by the government - similar to what the GS pay schedule now does for federal workers?
    No, I would not favor a national pay scale. I have enough trouble with the Minimum Wage issue.

    There are economists and others who know about this. One whose book I have read is Naomi Klein. I am not an economist.

    But considering (from memory and notes) that in 1980 the average CEO made 43 times what the average worker in his company made, and that in 2005 that changed to 411 times what his average worker made, something is wrong.

    I make no claims to knowing the answer, how to correct something like that, but it is not difficult to understand that such trends and statistics work against the notion that any sort of equality exists on a basic level. Just as they can assign reasons for that disparity, somebody can come up with a solution. Not me, but somebody can.

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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    How many companies lost to hostile take overs of stock because they didn't have the liquid assets to protect their stocks? Just how stable is our current economy? Why is that Chesapeake no longer advertises itself as the largest independent producer of natural gas? (Hint, it's related to the first question).

    When a company bases itself and it's profits on a certain market, they have to retain control to pursue their vision and goals. Stock piles of money (liquid assets) is one way to hedge against hostile take overs and other downturns, such as regulation.

    Even the largest of companies need liquid assets to keep control of their companies. There are many other things that those liquid assets exist to protect a company from. Considering the actions of Obama and the DNC towards corporations, is it really that confusing on why they would stock pile money for the future?
    Essentially I agree with you--I think every successful company should have cash reserves, every individual should have savings and cash reserves.

    The point is that (from my previous post) various ratios are going the wrong way, assuming one buys into that romantic notion that ours is a democratic society in which anybody willing to work hard can get ahead and support a family, and that all men are equal before the law.

    Do compassionate corporations exist, or is the bottom line the only thing that drives American industry today?

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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    No, I would not favor a national pay scale. I have enough trouble with the Minimum Wage issue.

    There are economists and others who know about this. One whose book I have read is Naomi Klein. I am not an economist.

    But considering (from memory and notes) that in 1980 the average CEO made 43 times what the average worker in his company made, and that in 2005 that changed to 411 times what his average worker made, something is wrong.

    I make no claims to knowing the answer, how to correct something like that, but it is not difficult to understand that such trends and statistics work against the notion that any sort of equality exists on a basic level. Just as they can assign reasons for that disparity, somebody can come up with a solution. Not me, but somebody can.
    Again you reply with the income inequality slogan (mantra?), implying, but never stating how or by who the ratio can be changed. You seem to imply that some correct ratio exists between any given CEO's compensation and that of their "average" worker and that "someone" must assure that this is made so. That seems to require that "someone" do two basic things: 1) establish a "correct" ratio and 2) either lower the CEO compensation or raise the compensation of the "average" worker to attain that ratio.

    You now have created a serious dilemma; the larger the corporation/company then the more that the CEO is responsible for, and yet a cashier, shelf stocker or forklift operator does the same "little" job regardless of how large that their employer happens to be, there are simply more of them working for the larger company. If we set the CEO's pay based on the average worker's pay (using some ratio) then the CEO of Walmart would be paid the same as the CEO of Dollar General (or any smaller retail operation).

    A similar dilemma occurs for companies that use more highly paid "average" employees, such as the NBA or a pharmaceutical developer - should the CEO of the NBA or Big Pharma make "way more" than the CEO of Walmart or Burger King?
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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    No, I would not favor a national pay scale. I have enough trouble with the Minimum Wage issue.

    There are economists and others who know about this. One whose book I have read is Naomi Klein. I am not an economist.

    But considering (from memory and notes) that in 1980 the average CEO made 43 times what the average worker in his company made, and that in 2005 that changed to 411 times what his average worker made, something is wrong.

    I make no claims to knowing the answer, how to correct something like that, but it is not difficult to understand that such trends and statistics work against the notion that any sort of equality exists on a basic level. Just as they can assign reasons for that disparity, somebody can come up with a solution. Not me, but somebody can.
    I'm wondering where this "notion of equality" thing that you mention comes from. Is that something you've dreamed up? It's certainly something that doesn't exist in reality when considering someone's right to make decisions about the use of their own property or money?
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    Re: U.S. companies hoard record amount of cash

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Obama has spent less money than Bush OR Reagan. Who Is The Smallest Government Spender Since Eisenhower? Would You Believe It's Barack Obama? - Forbes
    Like Carter and Vietnam, Obama got stuck with a helluva bill. His abilities to at the very least keep our heads above water and save US from complete collapse is what's making his presidency. For the record, Obama is no friend of mine, but I know very well what's been going on and his policies have at the very least stabilized the economy into the upswing that we have now. QE BTW has gotten the demand side spending which is what its designed to do.

    Your hate for Obama is clouding your ability to read the signs.
    More lies and dishonest progressive paradigms.

    That hack article blames all of the FY2015 Budget on Bush.

    Even though Obama signed 9 out of the 12 spending appropriations bills in that budget.

    I'm beginning to wonder if you're even capable of telling the truth.

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