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    Obama Sends Iran a Nowruz Message, Calls Nuclear Talks a 'Historic Opportunity[W:274]

    WASHINGTON — U.S. President Barack Obama, in a message to Iran's people and leaders, said this year represented the "best opportunity in decades" to pursue a different relationship between their two countries.Obama said Thursday that nuclear talks between Iran and Western powers had made progress but that gaps remained. "This moment may not come again soon," Obama said in his message celebrating Nowruz, the Iranian New Year. "I believe that our nations have an historic opportunity to resolve this issue peacefully — an opportunity we should not miss."
    Iran and six world powers are seeking a comprehensive agreement to curb Iran's most sensitive nuclear activities for at least 10 years in exchange for a gradual end to sanctions against Tehran. The powers aim to complete the framework of a final deal by the end of March and reach a full agreement by June 30.
    Obama said in his message that "the days and weeks ahead will be critical. Our negotiations have made progress, but gaps remain. And there are people, in both our countries and beyond, who oppose a diplomatic resolution."
    "My message to you — the people of Iran — is that, together, we have to speak up for the future we seek," he said, adding: "This year, we have the best opportunity in decades to pursue a different future between our countries."

    Obama Sends Iran a Nowruz Message, Calls Nuclear Talks a 'Historic Opportunity' - NBC News

    This is... the most insane thing I've ever heard or seen...
    He really, REALLY believes he can just talk "sensibly" and everyone will fall in line...

    Are you kidding me?
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    Re: Obama Sends Iran a Nowruz Message, Calls Nuclear Talks a 'Historic Opportunity'

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Obama Sends Iran a Nowruz Message, Calls Nuclear Talks a 'Historic Opportunity' - NBC News

    This is... the most insane thing I've ever heard or seen...
    He really, REALLY believes he can just talk "sensibly" and everyone will fall in line...

    Are you kidding me?
    Bibi called it when he spoke to Congress.... paving the way for a nuclear armed Iran. Prophetic even...
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Obama Sends Iran a Nowruz Message, Calls Nuclear Talks a 'Historic Opportunity'

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Bibi called it when he spoke to Congress.... paving the way for a nuclear armed Iran. Prophetic even...
    He threw Israel under the bus, is trying to say "we're your friends and partners" to Iran. He's completely lost his ****ing mind.
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    Re: Obama Sends Iran a Nowruz Message, Calls Nuclear Talks a 'Historic Opportunity'

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    He threw Israel under the bus, is trying to say "we're your friends and partners" to Iran. He's completely lost his ****ing mind.
    Let's do a hypothetical.... Obama gets his wish, a crappy deal with Iran that they will not keep, they play "hide the pickle" with inspectors while either buying and replicating ICBM technology and enough nuclear material for multiple warheads. 5 or 6 years from now some new Iranian mullah nitwit decides to use the nuke on some group in some country - maybe Israel, who knows. Will Obama be held accountable for LETTING Iran get nukes and will this bad "deal" be seen as the reason millions died?

    Of course not - this will be GW Bush's fault because of the Iraq war you see.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Obama Sends Iran a Nowruz Message, Calls Nuclear Talks a 'Historic Opportunity'

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Let's do a hypothetical.... Obama gets his wish, a crappy deal with Iran that they will not keep, they play "hide the pickle" with inspectors while either buying and replicating ICBM technology and enough nuclear material for multiple warheads. 5 or 6 years from now some new Iranian mullah nitwit decides to use the nuke on some group in some country - maybe Israel, who knows. Will Obama be held accountable for LETTING Iran get nukes and will this bad "deal" be seen as the reason millions died?

    Of course not - this will be GW Bush's fault because of the Iraq war you see.
    You assume there would be real outrage at Israel being nuked.
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    Re: Obama Sends Iran a Nowruz Message, Calls Nuclear Talks a 'Historic Opportunity'

    Is it wrong to wonder just whose side Obama is on?

    Can anyone possibly believe the mullahs have any interest in working with a western nation of infidels?

    Obama is either stupid or sympathetic when it comes to Iran.

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    Re: Obama Sends Iran a Nowruz Message, Calls Nuclear Talks a 'Historic Opportunity'

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    You assume there would be real outrage at Israel being nuked.
    Touche. But I think there would be, not because it's Israel that got nuked but because other countries would then be worried about their own asses.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Obama Sends Iran a Nowruz Message, Calls Nuclear Talks a 'Historic Opportunity'

    Who in Iran actually heard what Obama said?

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    Re: Obama Sends Iran a Nowruz Message, Calls Nuclear Talks a 'Historic Opportunity'

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Are you kidding me?
    I'm perfectly happy with the tact that Obama is taking with Iran.

    The majority of the world is able to work perfectly decently with Iran. As a German, for example, you can fly into Iran and live and work at the Iranian branch of Siemens or Krupp without any Iranian or German ever thinking twice. It's a completely unremarkable situation, because believe it or not, Iran is a completely middle-of-the-road, 80 million pop country that falls into line with the expectations/problems we have with every other non-Western developing country.

    America (and Israel) is the only odd one out here. No other countries have such bizarre trust issues with Iran, nor does Iran have such difficulty rest of the world, probably because the rest of the world doesn't have such a large number of Cowboy-diplomat, conservative jingoists who seem to want to level Iran every chance they get.
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    Re: Obama Sends Iran a Nowruz Message, Calls Nuclear Talks a 'Historic Opportunity'

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Let's do a hypothetical.... Obama gets his wish, a crappy deal with Iran that they will not keep, they play "hide the pickle" with inspectors while either buying and replicating ICBM technology and enough nuclear material for multiple warheads. 5 or 6 years from now some new Iranian mullah nitwit decides to use the nuke on some group in some country - maybe Israel, who knows. Will Obama be held accountable for LETTING Iran get nukes and will this bad "deal" be seen as the reason millions died?

    Of course not - this will be GW Bush's fault because of the Iraq war you see.
    1. If they don't allow inspectors access when and where it is needed the agreement can be revoked and we go right back to... well to where we are right now. Who gives a ****. Worst case scenario is we go back to our current state.

    2. How in the **** did you conclude that if we have inspectors in Iran then they could build a nuclear arsenal in 5 to 6 years, but they can't do that in the current scenario where we don't have any inspectors inside the country?

    3. It's not nearly as easy as the average person would think to just move around the kind of equipment and materials needed to make a nuclear weapon. This takes huge amounts of people, effort, equipment, material etc. It would be like a factory or a chemical plant being moved to a new location in a weeks notice. It's not possible.

    This goes to show you how dense conservatives are being on this issue. They actually prefer the scenario of us not having inspectors inside Iran rather than us actually having inspectors. Some how we are in less danger when we aren't keeping a close eye on them.
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