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    Re: Obama Sends Iran a Nowruz Message, Calls Nuclear Talks a 'Historic Opportunity'

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Obama Sends Iran a Nowruz Message, Calls Nuclear Talks a 'Historic Opportunity' - NBC News

    This is... the most insane thing I've ever heard or seen...
    He really, REALLY believes he can just talk "sensibly" and everyone will fall in line...

    Are you kidding me?
    O knows that Iran will get nukes. It's just a line. Iranian nukes are no big deal--they would never be used.

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    Re: Obama Sends Iran a Nowruz Message, Calls Nuclear Talks a 'Historic Opportunity'

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Let's do a hypothetical.... Obama gets his wish, a crappy deal with Iran that they will not keep, they play "hide the pickle" with inspectors while either buying and replicating ICBM technology and enough nuclear material for multiple warheads. 5 or 6 years from now some new Iranian mullah nitwit decides to use the nuke on some group in some country - maybe Israel, who knows. Will Obama be held accountable for LETTING Iran get nukes and will this bad "deal" be seen as the reason millions died?

    Of course not - this will be GW Bush's fault because of the Iraq war you see.
    Iran will get nukes no matter what. The reason for the sanction removal is just to alleviate the suffering of the Iranian people.

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    Re: Obama Sends Iran a Nowruz Message, Calls Nuclear Talks a 'Historic Opportunity'

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Touche. But I think there would be, not because it's Israel that got nuked but because other countries would then be worried about their own asses.
    I don't think Iran is going to ban toilet paper.

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    Re: Obama Sends Iran a Nowruz Message, Calls Nuclear Talks a 'Historic Opportunity'

    Why is it insane to try to find a peaceful resolution compared to bombing the sh** out of somebody. We've tried that method while trying to forge relationships across the region and have gotten nowhere except more extreme groups. Stop the tinkering, stop the meddling, and maybe something will actually change.
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    Re: Obama Sends Iran a Nowruz Message, Calls Nuclear Talks a 'Historic Opportunity'

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    It is a failure for us to be negotiating with this terrorist regime. Obama is responsible for his actions, he can't lay blame on the other countries, he got us into this. But I'm sure he will blame Bush.



    No president is expected to be an expert in every area, but they are expected to have expert advisors and to have enough intelligence to comprehend the information they are give. Obama has shown to be so arrogant that he thinks he is the expert, with little or no expertise at all. See how that is a problem?

    And those other countries can do whatever is in their best interests forming their socialist organizations, we need a president that is working in our best inerests.
    The US has a long history of negotiating with terrorists, using terrorists to advance "US interest" when perceived as beneficial, and killing them if not. Iran is a country. It's negotiating with the UNSC, who intends on insuring that any Iranian nuclear power program remains peaceful.

    Obama isn't blaming anything on anybody, what the hell do you mean. It's the right that's blaming Obama over an agreement they haven't seen. That's a colossal stupidity.

    Your best interests, and my best interests aren't the same. I'll take an agreement with Iran that they won't build nuclear weapons which will be monitored. So, in this case, Obama's advancing my interests. Sorry that you're disappointed on this one.
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    Re: Obama Sends Iran a Nowruz Message, Calls Nuclear Talks a 'Historic Opportunity'

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    O knows that Iran will get nukes. It's just a line. Iranian nukes are no big deal--they would never be used.
    The callous belief that madmen with WMD would never use them is scary. You assume the Iranian leadership rational.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: Obama Sends Iran a Nowruz Message, Calls Nuclear Talks a 'Historic Opportunity'

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    The callous belief that madmen with WMD would never use them is scary. You assume the Iranian leadership rational.
    The Iranian regime is very rational, as evidenced by its ability to successfully manipulate the dumbya administration into removing Saddam from power so it could another country under its belt for free.

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    Re: Obama Sends Iran a Nowruz Message, Calls Nuclear Talks a 'Historic Opportunity'

    Quote Originally Posted by Chainsaw View Post
    the only opportunity here is Obama desperately trying to get a foreign policy victory, so he won't go down in history as a bigger hack than Jimmy Carter.
    Iran getting nukes will definitely be a foreign policy victory, as it means Israel will be less likely to just invade/bully anyone at will and will be forced to negotiate for peace.

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    Re: Obama Sends Iran a Nowruz Message, Calls Nuclear Talks a 'Historic Opportunity'

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    The Iranian regime is very rational, as evidenced by its ability to successfully manipulate the dumbya administration into removing Saddam from power so it could another country under its belt for free.
    I have a feeling you and I speak from different views of reality. Have fun with that dubya hate, may it follow you everywhere, be sure yto make that the central point to all your explanations so people see the real you and have no doubts.
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    Re: Obama Sends Iran a Nowruz Message, Calls Nuclear Talks a 'Historic Opportunity'

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    This I year turned down an invite from several of my friends, who are going to visit Iran in April. The three that are going are an American gay couple and an Iranian friend of mine.
    Yes and we totally believe you since Iran is the number one tourist destination in the world for gay Americans.

    Do you really expect people to believe this tripe?

    I don't have the PTO, otherwise I'd gladly have gone, but I'm hitting up Australia / NZ and Eastern Europe this year. However I seriously entertained the thought and did the initial planning of the trip.

    Unless you are Islamophobic, it is a perfectly wonderful country,
    Asserting that a country that executes gays for being gay, does not have freedom of religion or freedom of speech, which calls for the eradication of other nation states, and which officially denies the holocaust and hosts holocaust denial conferences and invites overt neo-Nazi's and members of the KKK is "wonderful" is either laughable or disgusting, I can't decide which.

    which Americans are allowed to visit.
    There national motto is literally "death to America" so spare me this fascist propaganda.

    I wouldn't throw myself into the backwater Iran,
    No we are talking about Tehran, there is no place in Iran that is wonderful, these are the state policies of their government.


    as I wouldn't throw myself into the backwater that the Colombian guerrilla gangs own, but I do very much know what I'm talking about outside of your F.U.D.
    No you're spouting ridiculous easily debunked propaganda that nobody takes seriously, you don't have a damn clue what you're talking about.

    The Navy shot down and murdered 290 Iranian citizens on an Iran Air flight. Quite similar to what the Ukrainian separatists did.
    A) It was an accident.

    B) There national motto was "death to America" prior to the incident.

    C) We did apologize so spare us: "...the United States recognized the aerial incident of 3 July 1988 as a terrible human tragedy and expressed deep regret over the loss of lives caused by the incident...

    D) This occurred long after Iran sponsored the Hezbollah slaughter of US marines in the Lebanese Barracks bombing attacks they not only did not apologize for the willful slaughter of 299 American citizens they erected a monument to the bombers.
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