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    Re: Students, governor want U.Va. student arrest investigated

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryriena View Post
    No video of the beating has been posted, as of yet. However, I have seen the pictures which I have posted below of what he looked like and during the event.
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    Pathetic. Find a pic that makes him look as sweet and innocent as possible and then juxtapose it against the image of him bleeding.
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    Re: Students, governor want U.Va. student arrest investigated

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    How do you know this??
    I don't know this, which is why I said it "appears to be" not showing the proper respect. He (apparently) wasn't drunk, wasn't using a fake ID, wasn't charged with using or threatening any force against the cops, but was bloodied and arrested and charged with BS crimes.

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    Re: Students, governor want U.Va. student arrest investigated

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryriena View Post
    I too like to see this beatting, however, from the wounds I would wonder what caused that severe of an injury that looks like a serious head wound from the blood splatter on his head.
    Head wounds bleed a LOT. I accidentally hit myself in forehead with the claw end of a hammer (working overhead trying to pry out a twisted piece of blocking from between two purlins) and had that much blood running down my face and needed NO stitches.
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    Re: Students, governor want U.Va. student arrest investigated

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryriena View Post
    Yeah, I am suprised he needed only ten stitches with how much he is bleeding in that photo. I am also surprised that their is no video in a college town full of college age kids that would die with out their phones.
    That's what I can't believe either. I would bet money that there is a cell phone video of the whole incident that shows what really happened. So the question is" "Why isn't it getting released?" Is there some kid who's hoping to paid for it?? Is there someone who wants to see this get blown up and hates LE (as a lot of college age people do) and simply decided to delete it so that they can join the protest?? I'd like to get some answers to this.
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    Re: Students, governor want U.Va. student arrest investigated

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    Pathetic. Find a pic that makes him look as sweet and innocent as possible and then juxtapose it against the image of him bleeding.
    The problem for the police in this case is he actually WAS an honor student, and on the honor committee (which is a very high post for a student at UVa that reflects directly on his overall character), and otherwise a respected student leader with no history of anything like this.
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    Re: Students, governor want U.Va. student arrest investigated

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    That's what I can't believe either. I would bet money that there is a cell phone video of the whole incident that shows what really happened. So the question is" "Why isn't it getting released?" Is there some kid who's hoping to paid for it?? Is there someone who wants to see this get blown up and hates LE (as a lot of college age people do) and simply decided to delete it so that they can join the protest?? I'd like to get some answers to this.
    But if the stories are even close to accurate, the 'encounter' went from 0 to 100 very quickly. It takes a little while to recognize that something is getting out of hand, pull out your phone, hit camera, switch to video, and hit start recording. It's irrational and unfair to assume with no evidence someone is hiding a recording that exonerates the officers.

    I can just as easily assume the reason the ABC cops don't wear body cameras is so they'll leave no video trace of acting like jack booted thugs.

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    Re: Students, governor want U.Va. student arrest investigated

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    I don't know this, which is why I said it "appears to be" not showing the proper respect. He (apparently) wasn't drunk, wasn't using a fake ID, wasn't charged with using or threatening any force against the cops, but was bloodied and arrested and charged with BS crimes.
    You don't know the whole story, so your conclusions can be wrong. Why not wait until we know the whole story before jumping to a conclusion?? I can put together a lot of scenarios where what happened to him was entirely justified. If he was pulled off to the side because he wouldn't step away from the door and when the officers pulled him aside, he yanked his arm back, got loud and belligerent and started calling the officers "******* racists", the officers asked him to stop and he kept doing it, so the officers took him to the ground and in the ensuing scuffle, he scraped his head against a sharp edge of part of the officer's equipment. I've got the EXACT same amount of backing for scenario as you do for yours. The difference is that I don't think that mine is the absolute truth, while you think yours is.
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    Re: Students, governor want U.Va. student arrest investigated

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    The problem for the police in this case is he actually WAS an honor student, and on the honor committee (which is a very high post for a student at UVa that reflects directly on his overall character), and otherwise a respected student leader with no history of anything like this.
    So what?? Sometimes nice people act like jerks.
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    Re: Students, governor want U.Va. student arrest investigated

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    Pathetic. Find a pic that makes him look as sweet and innocent as possible and then juxtapose it against the image of him bleeding.
    You see this nice looking preppy man with his lovely fiancée, in his Ralph Lauren oxford shirt posed in front of the yacht club?



    This is what he looked like a few months later:



    That's him after he was arrested for killing a prostitute in Boston. You know him as The Craigslist Killer.

    Of course, we all know those "before" shots prove everything.
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    Re: Students, governor want U.Va. student arrest investigated

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    But if the stories are even close to accurate, the 'encounter' went from 0 to 100 very quickly. It takes a little while to recognize that something is getting out of hand, pull out your phone, hit camera, switch to video, and hit start recording. It's irrational and unfair to assume with no evidence someone is hiding a recording that exonerates the officers.

    I can just as easily assume the reason the ABC cops don't wear body cameras is so they'll leave no video trace of acting like jack booted thugs.
    You don't spend much time around this age group, do you? I've seen kids whip out cell phone and have it recording in a couple of seconds. Most people in the age group that was there live for that moment when they can get a video like this. To think that no one there was able to get a video of the whole incident just sounds wrong to me. Maybe I'm wrong, but this just doesn't add up....
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