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Netanyahu poised for 3rd straight term Israel PM after rival concedes[W:350:384]

Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

Then let your war hero with the balls as big as a beach ball go and mouth off all he wants as long as he is willing to fight his own battles without us standing behind him - or in front of him.

You want you or your kids to go fight for the man - fine - not me pal - not me.

what did Bibi say that is such an afront to the Obama voters?... that he wont fold to Iran like Obama does or Bibi wont bow to tyrant killers?
 
Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

I call that the "Obama Mix Tape Diplomacy"

Surely beats his "Send back the bust" diplomacy.
 
Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

thats not how allies treat allies.. but again for Obama voters...so its all about being a petulant child

You want your kids to go fight for Bibi to back up his hard line and his mouth - fine by me. Just leave the rest of the country out of it please.
 
Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

what if Germany, France and the UK say " we aint backing up Obama"...

having allies is a two way street.. but Obama doesnt care.. its about his child like ego

Then we face that when it happens in the world of realpolitik.
 
Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

Then let your war hero with the balls as big as a beach ball go and mouth off all he wants as long as he is willing to fight his own battles without us standing behind him - or in front of him.

You want you or your kids to go fight for the man - fine - not me pal - not me.



What the **** are you on about?

Such anger at an opinon!!!

When EVER has Israel NOT fought its own battles? How many Americans died in the Yom Kippur war?

For your enlightenment, Israel refuses to allow foreign troops of any kind on its land, one exception beng scud killer missiles the US tried that worked for ****.

Netanyhu has fought in four wars for his country. He was wounded twice and decorated twice. He has led men into battle and knows what it means to send a man to his death.

Your idiot hasn't a clue. He moves troops around like a chess game and goes golfing when they die.

Netanyhu has fought four wining wars.

How many has Obama won?

Too him Netanyahu and the Republicans are the enemy, not ISIS
 
Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

For your enlightenment, Israel refuses to allow foreign troops of any kind on its land, one exception beng scud killer missiles the US tried that worked for ****.

Netanyhu has fought in four wars for his country. He was wounded twice and decorated twice. He has led men into battle and knows what it means to send a man to his death.

Lets keep it that way with him and his fighting for what they think is important. Just leave us out of it.
 
Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

You want your kids to go fight for Bibi to back up his hard line and his mouth - fine by me. Just leave the rest of the country out of it please.

when have we fought in any of the wars Israel has been forced to conduct?

Youre just spouting nonsense...

let me guess the Jews blew up the WTC
 
Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

Then we face that when it happens in the world of realpolitik.


nah..lets face it now..

why woudl any coutnry support Obama?..if Im Isreal, Germany , France , Poland.. etc...I tell Obama to fight his own wars..dont try to form a coalition with us as we know you will not be there UNCONDITIONALLY for us if we need ya..
 
Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

Lets keep it that way with him and his fighting for what they think is important. Just leave us out of it.

Neville Chamberlain alert..
 
Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

Unusual comment. You are comparing esteem for a group of leaders with esteem for an office. Offices do not deserve esteem, people who have earned esteem do. I can't speak for the person to whom you responded but I have esteem for Netanyahu and none for Obama. Is it not possible for a particular non American to deserve more esteem than a particular American?
Do you claim that people who criticize Israeli leaders are anti-Israel? Because that's the point. If criticizing Israeli leaders means someone is anti-Israel, would it not stand to reason that criticizing our American leader would make one anti-American?
No one has ever said it is not OK to criticize Israel.
Sure they have, if not explicitly, then certainly implicitly. The post I quoted earlier is an example, amongst any others.

It is NOT OK to have a president of the United States wage a dis-information campaign against an ally. It is NOT OK for a president to forward dangerous policies toward an ally. It is not OK to play nice with an ally's sworn enemies and enable them to go nuke. It is not OK for a United States president to mess with the domestic politics of an ally and try to demean him on the world stage.

It is NOT OK for a United States president to throw a childish temper tantrum because Netantyahu accepted an invitation to speak issued by Democrats and Republicans alike, and try to undermine the personal character of a world leader....when that world leader has spoken to congress twice in the past with not even a whimper.
So you think it's okay for an ally to use us for personal political purposes? You think it is okay for an ally to disregard accepted protocol? You think it's okay for an ally to interfere with our political affairs? If Obama invited Iranian leaders to America to lecture Congress on the dangers of Israel, would you be okay with that?

I have this sneaking suspicion your position on this is completely partisan and the only reason you're okay with foreign leaders interfering with domestic disputes is because of your political lean. I find such a thing quite disturbing, as it suggests your allegiance is not with your country, but rather with your political party.
Where in there is there an attack on the "office" of the president? It says "the current occupant of the White House" NOT the office of the president.
President Obama is the President. Whether you agree with his policies or not, the office deserves your respect, even if you do not agree with a single thing he says.

So then it comes down to your value system and what each person or country is fighting for.
You'll have to examine that for yourself by yourself.
So, in other words...your decision about who should be criticized is not based upon any actual moral code, but rather who aligns with the politics you believe in. Which, as I just said to another poster, is quite disturbing because it suggests your allegiance is not with the United States, but rather your political party.


To be clear to both you and FIL, I do not mind legitimate criticism of any President or any governmental leader. We have a right to express our displeasure with our government. And, most importantly, expressing displeasure with our government leaders does not make one un-American. But, on the flip side, expressing displeasure with the actions of an ally, does not mean we are against said ally. Anyone can criticize Israel and its government, and to say they cannot is absurd. But, even more importantly, claiming one is anti-ally because of said criticism is nothing more than childish partisanship and there is no use for it in reasonable and mature discussion.
 
Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

Do you claim that people who criticize Israeli leaders are anti-Israel? Because that's the point. If criticizing Israeli leaders means someone is anti-Israel, would it not stand to reason that criticizing our American leader would make one anti-American?
Sure they have, if not explicitly, then certainly implicitly. The post I quoted earlier is an example, amongst any others.


So you think it's okay for an ally to use us for personal political purposes? You think it is okay for an ally to disregard accepted protocol? You think it's okay for an ally to interfere with our political affairs? If Obama invited Iranian leaders to America to lecture Congress on the dangers of Israel, would you be okay with that?

I have this sneaking suspicion your position on this is completely partisan and the only reason you're okay with foreign leaders interfering with domestic disputes is because of your political lean. I find such a thing quite disturbing, as it suggests your allegiance is not with your country, but rather with your political party.
President Obama is the President. Whether you agree with his policies or not, the office deserves your respect, even if you do not agree with a single thing he says.

So, in other words...your decision about who should be criticized is not based upon any actual moral code, but rather who aligns with the politics you believe in. Which, as I just said to another poster, is quite disturbing because it suggests your allegiance is not with the United States, but rather your political party.


To be clear to both you and FIL, I do not mind legitimate criticism of any President or any governmental leader. We have a right to express our displeasure with our government. And, most importantly, expressing displeasure with our government leaders does not make one un-American. But, on the flip side, expressing displeasure with the actions of an ally, does not mean we are against said ally. Anyone can criticize Israel and its government, and to say they cannot is absurd. But, even more importantly, claiming one is anti-ally because of said criticism is nothing more than childish partisanship and there is no use for it in reasonable and mature discussion.



do you ever not straw man?

Where the **** have I ever suggested that and where the **** did you get it?

Can you answer the post instead of deflecting...for once.
 
Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

Do you claim that people who criticize Israeli leaders are anti-Israel? Because that's the point. If criticizing Israeli leaders means someone is anti-Israel, would it not stand to reason that criticizing our American leader would make one anti-American?
Sure they have, if not explicitly, then certainly implicitly. The post I quoted earlier is an example, amongst any others.


So you think it's okay for an ally to use us for personal political purposes? You think it is okay for an ally to disregard accepted protocol? You think it's okay for an ally to interfere with our political affairs? If Obama invited Iranian leaders to America to lecture Congress on the dangers of Israel, would you be okay with that?

I have this sneaking suspicion your position on this is completely partisan and the only reason you're okay with foreign leaders interfering with domestic disputes is because of your political lean. I find such a thing quite disturbing, as it suggests your allegiance is not with your country, but rather with your political party.
President Obama is the President. Whether you agree with his policies or not, the office deserves your respect, even if you do not agree with a single thing he says.

So, in other words...your decision about who should be criticized is not based upon any actual moral code, but rather who aligns with the politics you believe in. Which, as I just said to another poster, is quite disturbing because it suggests your allegiance is not with the United States, but rather your political party.


To be clear to both you and FIL, I do not mind legitimate criticism of any President or any governmental leader. We have a right to express our displeasure with our government. And, most importantly, expressing displeasure with our government leaders does not make one un-American. But, on the flip side, expressing displeasure with the actions of an ally, does not mean we are against said ally. Anyone can criticize Israel and its government, and to say they cannot is absurd. But, even more importantly, claiming one is anti-ally because of said criticism is nothing more than childish partisanship and there is no use for it in reasonable and mature discussion.

what protocal? are you talking about our tax dollars going to support some lefty in Israel with Obama operatives on the ground busing in votes against Bibil I agree thats a REAL PROTOCAL BREACH..are you too partisasn to see that.. as you accuse others of "just being partisans"? the irony is over the top
to be clear I dont care what you "mind" as your posts are always slanted in a left wing whack Code Pink way ...so your posts to me are just cryptic jew hate as always..you couch them cutely thinking you are "sly".. but I think many see through them...

what is your complaint with Bibi.. say it.. stop the nonsense..
 
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Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

Lets keep it that way with him and his fighting for what they think is important. Just leave us out of it.

Oh OK so as it has always been then?

Glad to see you have come around and seem to at least, admit you were wrong with all the hysteria about America and my kids fighting Israel's wars.


In future, save that kind of baiting for children OK?
 
Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

Oh OK so as it has always been then?

Glad to see you have come around and seem to at least, admit you were wrong with all the hysteria about America and my kids fighting Israel's wars.


In future, save that kind of baiting for children OK?

I have no idea what you are talking about or why you are trying to spin this to save face.
 
Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

what protocal? are you talking about our tax dollars going to support some lefty in Israel with Obama operatives on the ground busing in votes against Bibil I agree thats a REAL PROTOCAL BREACH..a re you too partisasn to see that as you accuse others of "just being partisans"

to be clear I dont care what you "mind" as your posts are always slanted in a left wing whack Code Pink way ...so your posts to me are just cryptic jew hate as always..you couch them cutely thinking you are "sly".. but I think many see through them...

what is your complaint with Bibi.. say it.. stop the nonsense..


The complaint is whatever Obama says this week......
 
Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

The complaint is whatever Obama says this week......

no doubt.. but "hes not a partisan " ....

he still has not said a word but written a book..and the only thing I glean is that "anyone who supports Bibi is anti american since they support him and dont not support him ...and they have taken shots at Obama so how dare they"..

this is lib "nuancing" 101...
 
Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

I have no idea what you are talking about or why you are trying to spin this to save face.

So you are still insisting Israel needs the US to fight Arabs?

Yeah, that I could see......

I guess being a political consultant and "chief of staff" taught you all that
 
Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

I have no idea what you are talking about or why you are trying to spin this to save face.

I believe he is referring to YOUR reference that you don't want your children fighting Israel's wars. He has already pointed out that only Israelis fight Israel's wars, so maybe that will give you an idea of exactly what he's referring to. Just trying to help because you obviously need some.
 
Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

Do you claim that people who criticize Israeli leaders are anti-Israel? Because that's the point. If criticizing Israeli leaders means someone is anti-Israel, would it not stand to reason that criticizing our American leader would make one anti-American?
Sure they have, if not explicitly, then certainly implicitly. The post I quoted earlier is an example, amongst any others.


So you think it's okay for an ally to use us for personal political purposes? You think it is okay for an ally to disregard accepted protocol? You think it's okay for an ally to interfere with our political affairs? If Obama invited Iranian leaders to America to lecture Congress on the dangers of Israel, would you be okay with that?

I have this sneaking suspicion your position on this is completely partisan and the only reason you're okay with foreign leaders interfering with domestic disputes is because of your political lean. I find such a thing quite disturbing, as it suggests your allegiance is not with your country, but rather with your political party.
President Obama is the President. Whether you agree with his policies or not, the office deserves your respect, even if you do not agree with a single thing he says.

So, in other words...your decision about who should be criticized is not based upon any actual moral code, but rather who aligns with the politics you believe in. Which, as I just said to another poster, is quite disturbing because it suggests your allegiance is not with the United States, but rather your political party.


To be clear to both you and FIL, I do not mind legitimate criticism of any President or any governmental leader. We have a right to express our displeasure with our government. And, most importantly, expressing displeasure with our government leaders does not make one un-American. But, on the flip side, expressing displeasure with the actions of an ally, does not mean we are against said ally. Anyone can criticize Israel and its government, and to say they cannot is absurd. But, even more importantly, claiming one is anti-ally because of said criticism is nothing more than childish partisanship and there is no use for it in reasonable and mature discussion.

This post is full of irony. Chalk full.
 
Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

So you are still insisting Israel needs the US to fight Arabs?

Yeah, that I could see......

I guess being a political consultant and "chief of staff" taught you all that

The subject of Israel and Arabic nations never came up in my job. Perhaps that is because foreign policy is not the province of the Michigan legislature.
 
Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

I believe he is referring to YOUR reference that you don't want your children fighting Israel's wars. He has already pointed out that only Israelis fight Israel's wars, so maybe that will give you an idea of exactly what he's referring to. Just trying to help because you obviously need some.

Right now and in the past - yes. But all that could change and you darn well know it.
 
Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

no doubt.. but "hes not a partisan " ....

he still has not said a word but written a book..and the only thing I glean is that "anyone who supports Bibi is anti american since they support him and dont not support him ...and they have taken shots at Obama so how dare they"..

this is lib "nuancing" 101...



...and denial....don't forget "I never said that..."

It's about wining arguments, not debate. Image over substance, make claims then deny you made them, all very subtly.

The soft underbelly of the anti-Israel camp in the US has always disgusted me. As much as I hate racists, at least I know a KKK member is going to hate Israel, not claim impartiality while supporting a president whose policies will lead to the nation's destruction. My God, do any of you know the implications of moving back to 1967's borders in today's missile happy world? They were barely able to stop the tanks then.

No, with Obama as with most of his recklessness, he has exposed the ugly underbelly of anti-semitism in America.
 
Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

Right now and in the past - yes. But all that could change and you darn well know it.

Everything can change, but if we're looking at precedent - since that's all we have - then your point is moot. Now tell me exactly why Obama is negotiating with Iran over nuclear development.
 
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