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    Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    Unusual comment. You are comparing esteem for a group of leaders with esteem for an office. Offices do not deserve esteem, people who have earned esteem do. I can't speak for the person to whom you responded but I have esteem for Netanyahu and none for Obama. Is it not possible for a particular non American to deserve more esteem than a particular American?
    Yeah, in this case he was talking to me.
    The Sly one like to go on these word excursions when he thinks he's stumbled upon some kind of logical conundrum.
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    Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    Unusual comment. You are comparing esteem for a group of leaders with esteem for an office. Offices do not deserve esteem, people who have earned esteem do. I can't speak for the person to whom you responded but I have esteem for Netanyahu and none for Obama. Is it not possible for a particular non American to deserve more esteem than a particular American?
    Good call FMW.....this way we knock out Philosophy 101 and get back to politics. Do you think it dawns on them concerning party ideologies or even ones own?

    I figured they just ignore character traits.

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    Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

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    Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes | Fox News


    Frankly I thought maybe Netanyahu wasn't going to win. But then the average Israeli probably looks at him differently.
    He thought he wasn't too! Which explains why he ditched his commitment to a Palestinian state, warned that the Arabs were coming after him and that foreign governments were engaged in nefarious acts to sabotage and overthrow him. The loss of ethics, the racism, the fear mongering, it all worked. Must be lots of racist, fearful, bigoted Israelis.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    So? Ignoring for a moment the useless rhetoric in your post, what does any of that have to do with anything? We can't criticize any leader who is trying to fight for the survival of his country? Does this mean we're not allowed to criticize Syria's Bashar Al-Assad or North Korea's Kim Jong-Un?

    I'm not trying to be a jerk, I'm just trying to understand the parameters here because they aren't making much sense.

    So then it comes down to your value system and what each person or country is fighting for.
    You'll have to examine that for yourself by yourself.
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    Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Man o man ... the Left is taking the Israeli election as bad as they took our own last November.


    Because it is yet another defeat for him.

    He went international with his temper tantrum, sent junior aids out to attack the character of an ally and made another spectacle for the world to watch, and tried to get Netanyahu booted. and lost

    Now, Netanyahu is a "winner" and Obama has been having congress eroded in three straight elections, he is the "loser" in this. On top of that the next in line which they have been pinning their hopes is a falling star.

    They fear what's coming, after 2 more years of Obama failing and screwing up, there is little hope Nancy can keep it together.....and they know how ugly they have been.....and pay back is a bitch

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    Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    No one has ever said it is not OK to criticize Israel.

    It is NOT OK to have a president of the United States wage a dis-information campaign against an ally. It is NOT OK for a president to forward dangerous policies toward an ally. It is not OK to play nice with an ally's sworn enemies and enable them to go nuke. It is not OK for a United States president to mess with the domestic politics of an ally and try to demean him on the world stage.

    It is NOT OK for a United States president to throw a childish temper tantrum because Netantyahu accepted an invitation to speak issued by Democrats and Republicans alike, and try to undermine the personal character of a world leader....when that world leader has spoken to congress twice in the past with not even a whimper.

    Israel receives aid along with Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, and apparently some terrorist groups as well. That aid is voted on by congress. Just because the US tries to buy friends doesn't mean everyone sells out
    Nope, not okay. And I agree with you that the issue is not the perception of the office of any country but, rather, about truthful observations about an "anti-Israeli community organizer trying to roll with the big boys and constantly coming out the loser."

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    Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    He thought he wasn't too! Which explains why he ditched his commitment to a Palestinian state, warned that the Arabs were coming after him and that foreign governments were engaged in nefarious acts to sabotage and overthrow him. The loss of ethics, the racism, the fear mongering, it all worked. Must be lots of racist, fearful, bigoted Israelis.
    That was thrown in on the end last couple of days. SOP for the process....first he talked about all the European money that was put up against him then other outsides sources. Which he still covered BO peeps ass by not naming the US and their NGO's Actual headed name. With that little bit about "and other sources". So lets not forget that important additional info.

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    Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Right here:


    According to this poster, it's not okay to criticize Israel, but it is okay to criticize the President.


    Again, I'll ask.

    If criticizing Israel and its leaders makes someone "anti-Israel", does criticizing the President make someone anti-American?

    By the way, I think it's hilarious the mental gymnastics some people are doing to justify their hatred of the President of the United States.
    Some of the reaction in this country led by the rhetoric of the current occupant in the WH shows just how anti Israel many in this country are. Israel is the best Ally the U.S. has in the Region and the country closest to being a democracy yet Obama and his Administration continue to show their incompetence as well as true colors.
    Where in there is there an attack on the "office" of the president? It says "the current occupant of the White House" NOT the office of the president.

    Once again you are trying to make chicken soup out of chicken ****.

    And I have no idea where you get the idea that anyone has said it is wrong to criticize another leader, if you had read my post you would see that it is not that simplistic, and your hero has ****ed up again.....

    Please have another read so you will know what we're talking about, however I have the impression you don't really want to know
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    Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Because it is yet another defeat for him.

    He went international with his temper tantrum, sent junior aids out to attack the character of an ally and made another spectacle for the world to watch, and tried to get Netanyahu booted. and lost

    Now, Netanyahu is a "winner" and Obama has been having congress eroded in three straight elections, he is the "loser" in this. On top of that the next in line which they have been pinning their hopes is a falling star.

    They fear what's coming, after 2 more years of Obama failing and screwing up, there is little hope Nancy can keep it together.....and they know how ugly they have been.....and pay back is a bitch

    As the great BTO song goes. "You ain't seen nothin' yet"
    Particularly ironic is that Obama's failure to work with Netanyahu, as well as his naivete with Iran only helped Netanyahu-Israel's are worried about what they perceive as a lack of US support (imagine how they got that idea) and that uncertainty favors a strong defense.

    Liberals still haven't figured out the concept of unintended consequences.

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    Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Particularly ironic is that Obama's failure to work with Netanyahu, as well as his naivete with Iran only helped Netanyahu-Israel's are worried about what they perceive as a lack of US support (imagine how they got that idea) and that uncertainty favors a strong defense.

    Liberals still haven't figured out the concept of unintended consequences.


    I am waiting for tomorrow's release of a local Jewish community newspaper to confirm this, but CBC is running a segment on middle east experts who are saying Obama's handling of all things middle east contributed to Netanyahu's win. They assert that because Obama made such an issue of it, Israeli's began to fear a withdrawal of support from the US, but instead of doing what Obama was trying to coerce them into, they went the other way and voted for security on their own terms. The majority of Israeli's believe they will prevail in another all out war with Arab countries and next time will take them all down.

    What I want to see is what Jews are saying about this within their own communities....I doubt it will get democrats any new votes...
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