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    Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    I wasn't even addressing that to you. Good grief, do you not understand how quoting works?

    Oh, and as for where I got it...just read Travis007 response. Which, of course, you already did because you liked it. So it's REALLY funny that you're still asking where I get that from, even though I was asking a legitimate question to someone who wasn't you.

    I already answered it. It's not my fault you didn't bother to read it and it's certainly not my fault you don't understand how quoting works.
    Aww, that's cute. You won't answer the questions, but instead decide to do EXACTLY what I've already noted, except to an even greater extreme. Now, according to your post, one doesn't even have to criticize Israel to be called someone practicing "jew hate", they merely have to ask why you can't criticize Israel.

    I could not have made my own point better. Thank you for clearly defining my point. Have yourself a great day.
    No it's not, unless you consider salient points ironic. Which isn't really the definition of irony, but I've seen you make up your own definitions of things so often it wouldn't surprise me to see you do it again.
    Amusing, but your deflection is too apparent.

    It's not your "values" which lead you to the conclusion it's okay to criticize one and not another. It's your politics. You're doing nothing more than toeing a party platform.

    A person with TRUE values, not influenced by childish partisanship, would say it's okay to criticize ANY government leader.
    Or they would say you show respect to every government leader. But not you. You say it's okay to criticize one but not another. Cloaking your obvious choice of distinction under the term "value system" doesn't change what you actually use to determine who can be criticized and who cannot.
    That sounds downright unpatriotic to me.


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    ...you're right guys, obviously the idea it's okay to insult our President and not the right wing leader of Israel has NOTHING to do with partisan politics. Not at all.
    Criticism based on what?
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    Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, Montecresto.

    Gaza cannot negotiate any agreement because of their divided government, so that option is off the table, and they have not kept their word in the past anyway, so no one expects them to do so now.

    Israel has been a target of hatred since they were given their worthless bit of land by the UN 60 years ago - they didn't choose it, but accepted what was offered - and they have become an object of envy from their Arab neighbors because of their hard work to make it a decent place to live. The others might try some hard work to do the same for their countries instead of using terrorist bullying to get their way.

    Iran has said they would like to see Israel disappear off the face of the map, and their current goal of having nuclear power to "provide electricity for their country" may be true, but it may also only be a part of the real story. No one trusts Iran, and several Arab countries have now sided with Israel in keeping Iran from going forward with their plans, including Saudi Arabia. Even the UN has stated they are against Iran becoming a nuclear power.

    Israel lives with missiles being fired at them on a regular basis. Yes, they also bomb Iranian underground facilities from time to time to delay them in going nuclear - and I can't fault them for that. Hell, we'd do the same thing, or worse, if it were happening to us, and you know it. They are careful not to harm civilians since they understand it's not their fault their government is nuts! You talk about Israel violating another country's sovereignty - if any country is doing that Iran certainly qualifies every time they fire missiles at Israel to kill civilians and destroy infrastructure!

    I'm trying to be fair in placing blame, but every US President from the time Israel became a State has gone on record publicly stating that Israel is an trusted ally - Democrat as well as Republican - until Obama! Personal feelings should never override statesmanship, but it's happening now. Why? Iran has also stated that we are "the great Satan," and that is a fact. All of a sudden they want to be our friend - on their terms of course - and you don't see that as suspicious? Will we decide to give them a chance to show they can keep their word? No room for a loud "oops" to be said later, though, if we are wrong. My opinion as I see things at the present time.....
    All president's until this thinned skinned chile have seen the best interests of the United States over their personal interests....and most of them develop respectful relationships with adversaries. Hell, Nixon and Trudeau HATED each other, but they were among the most peaceful times between our two countries. Reagan respected Brezhnev as did Carter before him.

    Obama seems to take everything personal and reacts accordingly. The White House release yesterday saying Netanyahu won by resorting to racism was cheap and churlish, a last kick at it after having been humiliated interfering in Israel's elections.
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    Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    I'm a fairly consistent supporter of Israel and Netanyahu's re-election is deeply disappointing to me.
    You're not alone.

    The Obama's are pretty upset too.

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    Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Good morning Polgara. Iran has stated that they would like to see the Israeli regime wiped out. Something the US actually makes a practice of doing. I don't think that you realize how many of us Americans have been waiting for a president to hold Israel accountable, and frankly appreciate Obama's hard line on Israel, despite the fact it doesn't go far enough. But hey, you have to start somewhere. While support for Israel is still insanely high in the US, it's been ever so slowly waning, and I'll take that progress to. Perhaps someday, the US gets out of the business of covering for Israeli crimes and one day we see binding resolutions against them!
    On that day America won't be worth a bucket of spit, so it will finally have come down to the level of people who spit on their democratic allies and fête primative tribal fascist violent goons and thugs.

    Find the world's violent wars and conflicts on a map and you will have found Arab/Muslim aggressors. The Arab-Israeli conflict is just one example of over 2 dozen.

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    Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Those Countries are already against you.
    Yes and who's lopsided foreign policy in the region got them that way ?

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    Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    On that day America won't be worth a bucket of spit, so it will finally have come down to the level of people who spit on their democratic allies and fête primative tribal fascist violent goons and thugs.

    Find the world's violent wars and conflicts on a map and you will have found Arab/Muslim aggressors. The Arab-Israeli conflict is just one example of over 2 dozen.
    I think you know what you can do with that racist rant.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    You're not alone.

    The Obama's are pretty upset too.
    Sorry, but there's far more than just the Obama's that are upset with Israel's Netanyahu!!

    Parliament's vote underlines Israel's deepening isolation
    The world is no longer shutting its eyes to the Benjamin Netanyahu government's obstructionism and violence



    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...isolation.html
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    Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post

    Really? I'm making stuff up now? The Ayatollah actively supports the talks. Hardliners in both the US and Iran do not support talks. (Generally speaking.)
    The Ayatollah is a hardliner. That's not arguable. Nor is it arguable that his decision on the matter is the only one that counts. Please name for me the hardliners in Iran that oppose the Ayatollah on this issue. (or any other)

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    Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Yes and who's lopsided foreign policy in the region got them that way ?
    Well then you'd have thought getting rid of Mubarek and Khadafi in order to turn Egypt and Libya over to radical Islamists would have somewhat endeared us to those Countries ... but that didn't happen.
    Unless you're suggesting we have to go all the way and bomb Israel ourselves.
    Yeah ... maybe that would work.

    You don't care much for Israel, do you.
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    Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    The Ayatollah is a hardliner. That's not arguable. Nor is it arguable that his decision on the matter is the only one that counts. Please name for me the hardliners in Iran that oppose the Ayatollah on this issue. (or any other)
    been there, tried that, you'll get the same results.
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