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    Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Then let your war hero with the balls as big as a beach ball go and mouth off all he wants as long as he is willing to fight his own battles without us standing behind him - or in front of him.

    You want you or your kids to go fight for the man - fine - not me pal - not me.
    what did Bibi say that is such an afront to the Obama voters?... that he wont fold to Iran like Obama does or Bibi wont bow to tyrant killers?

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    Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    I call that the "Obama Mix Tape Diplomacy"
    Surely beats his "Send back the bust" diplomacy.

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    Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    thats not how allies treat allies.. but again for Obama voters...so its all about being a petulant child
    You want your kids to go fight for Bibi to back up his hard line and his mouth - fine by me. Just leave the rest of the country out of it please.
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    Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    what if Germany, France and the UK say " we aint backing up Obama"...

    having allies is a two way street.. but Obama doesnt care.. its about his child like ego
    Then we face that when it happens in the world of realpolitik.
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    Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Then let your war hero with the balls as big as a beach ball go and mouth off all he wants as long as he is willing to fight his own battles without us standing behind him - or in front of him.

    You want you or your kids to go fight for the man - fine - not me pal - not me.


    What the **** are you on about?

    Such anger at an opinon!!!

    When EVER has Israel NOT fought its own battles? How many Americans died in the Yom Kippur war?

    For your enlightenment, Israel refuses to allow foreign troops of any kind on its land, one exception beng scud killer missiles the US tried that worked for ****.

    Netanyhu has fought in four wars for his country. He was wounded twice and decorated twice. He has led men into battle and knows what it means to send a man to his death.

    Your idiot hasn't a clue. He moves troops around like a chess game and goes golfing when they die.

    Netanyhu has fought four wining wars.

    How many has Obama won?

    Too him Netanyahu and the Republicans are the enemy, not ISIS
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    Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post

    For your enlightenment, Israel refuses to allow foreign troops of any kind on its land, one exception beng scud killer missiles the US tried that worked for ****.

    Netanyhu has fought in four wars for his country. He was wounded twice and decorated twice. He has led men into battle and knows what it means to send a man to his death.
    Lets keep it that way with him and his fighting for what they think is important. Just leave us out of it.
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    Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You want your kids to go fight for Bibi to back up his hard line and his mouth - fine by me. Just leave the rest of the country out of it please.
    when have we fought in any of the wars Israel has been forced to conduct?

    Youre just spouting nonsense...

    let me guess the Jews blew up the WTC

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    Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Then we face that when it happens in the world of realpolitik.

    nah..lets face it now..

    why woudl any coutnry support Obama?..if Im Isreal, Germany , France , Poland.. etc...I tell Obama to fight his own wars..dont try to form a coalition with us as we know you will not be there UNCONDITIONALLY for us if we need ya..

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    Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Lets keep it that way with him and his fighting for what they think is important. Just leave us out of it.
    Neville Chamberlain alert..

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    Re: Netanyahu poised for third straight term as Israel PM after chief rival concedes

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    Unusual comment. You are comparing esteem for a group of leaders with esteem for an office. Offices do not deserve esteem, people who have earned esteem do. I can't speak for the person to whom you responded but I have esteem for Netanyahu and none for Obama. Is it not possible for a particular non American to deserve more esteem than a particular American?
    Do you claim that people who criticize Israeli leaders are anti-Israel? Because that's the point. If criticizing Israeli leaders means someone is anti-Israel, would it not stand to reason that criticizing our American leader would make one anti-American?
    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    No one has ever said it is not OK to criticize Israel.
    Sure they have, if not explicitly, then certainly implicitly. The post I quoted earlier is an example, amongst any others.

    It is NOT OK to have a president of the United States wage a dis-information campaign against an ally. It is NOT OK for a president to forward dangerous policies toward an ally. It is not OK to play nice with an ally's sworn enemies and enable them to go nuke. It is not OK for a United States president to mess with the domestic politics of an ally and try to demean him on the world stage.

    It is NOT OK for a United States president to throw a childish temper tantrum because Netantyahu accepted an invitation to speak issued by Democrats and Republicans alike, and try to undermine the personal character of a world leader....when that world leader has spoken to congress twice in the past with not even a whimper.
    So you think it's okay for an ally to use us for personal political purposes? You think it is okay for an ally to disregard accepted protocol? You think it's okay for an ally to interfere with our political affairs? If Obama invited Iranian leaders to America to lecture Congress on the dangers of Israel, would you be okay with that?

    I have this sneaking suspicion your position on this is completely partisan and the only reason you're okay with foreign leaders interfering with domestic disputes is because of your political lean. I find such a thing quite disturbing, as it suggests your allegiance is not with your country, but rather with your political party.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Where in there is there an attack on the "office" of the president? It says "the current occupant of the White House" NOT the office of the president.
    President Obama is the President. Whether you agree with his policies or not, the office deserves your respect, even if you do not agree with a single thing he says.

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    So then it comes down to your value system and what each person or country is fighting for.
    You'll have to examine that for yourself by yourself.
    So, in other words...your decision about who should be criticized is not based upon any actual moral code, but rather who aligns with the politics you believe in. Which, as I just said to another poster, is quite disturbing because it suggests your allegiance is not with the United States, but rather your political party.


    To be clear to both you and FIL, I do not mind legitimate criticism of any President or any governmental leader. We have a right to express our displeasure with our government. And, most importantly, expressing displeasure with our government leaders does not make one un-American. But, on the flip side, expressing displeasure with the actions of an ally, does not mean we are against said ally. Anyone can criticize Israel and its government, and to say they cannot is absurd. But, even more importantly, claiming one is anti-ally because of said criticism is nothing more than childish partisanship and there is no use for it in reasonable and mature discussion.

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