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Israeli elections take dramatic turn as official tally gives Likud sweeping victory

Re: Israeli elections take dramatic turn as official tally gives Likud sweeping victo

And the US continues its Israeli election-rigging streak. Israel is doomed.

how did we rig your election?
 
Re: Israeli elections take dramatic turn as official tally gives Likud sweeping victo

Not really any of my business since Im not Isreali but its interesting to see that the Arab coalition is now the third largest party in Isreal- they are the one hope for long term peace in that area.
 
Re: Israeli elections take dramatic turn as official tally gives Likud sweeping victo

Not really any of my business since Im not Isreali but its interesting to see that the Arab coalition is now the third largest party in Isreal- they are the one hope for long term peace in that area.

Yes, that was a very pleasant surprise for me as well.

Yup, forget hard-line, right wing, Israeli ding dongs who seem to hate or fear everything that is not Jewish. They are dinosaurs or idiots or just emotionally unstable. Hate and fear get you no where in the end.

Imo, if Israel has a peaceful, long term future, it is with an Arab-Jewish coalition running the country...not hate-filled, right wing, fear mongers like Natanyahu who act like 21'st century religious versions of Apartheid.
 
Re: Israeli elections take dramatic turn as official tally gives Likud sweeping victo

I understand your view, and think we are both thinking of the same attack you referred to. We should always hold our allies to a standard, blind support is unacceptable- in the case of Israel, I see them as a valuable strategic ally in a very hostile region of the world-even if they need us more than we need them.

IIRC, arab states actually expelled as many Jews as the Jews expelled or relocated, and while Israel accepted those Jews, many of those surrounding states have not accepted the Palestinians.

I do not see American-Israeli relations improving over the remainder of Obama's term, he's burned too many bridges there, but I hope to see an improvement down the road.
The Arab leagues official policy has been to refuse Palestinian refugees since the fifties they were hoping that when they invaded Israel again the Palestinians would be a fifth column, but they didn't bet on losing the 6 day or the 73 peace agreement with Sadat.

Still they will not accept them. And the Palestinians traditional allies like Hezbollah are now fighting ISIS and they don't care about lazy Palestinians griping about Israeli building when they're dying and bleeding to save Asad from Sunni exteemists
 
Re: Israeli elections take dramatic turn as official tally gives Likud sweeping victo

Interesting article, it suggests that this was yet another failure of the Obama administration, even if not official policy.

Try the CIA and military-industrial complex...
 
Re: Israeli elections take dramatic turn as official tally gives Likud sweeping victo

The US meddles in Isreali elections and vice versa- in the US the GOP is pretty much Bibi's lapdog and AIPAC controls Congress.

And this man controls them all: Sheldon Adelson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

From your link...
In a Wall Street Journal op-ed titled "I Didn't Leave the Democrats. They Left me", Adelson specifies three reasons why he switched political parties. First, he cites foreign policy, pointing to a Gallup poll that suggests Republicans are more supportive of Israel than Democrats.[27] Second, he cites statistics that suggest Republicans are more charitable than Democrats. To support this claim Adelson adduces a report from the Chronicle of Philanthropy which found, after studying tax data from the IRS, that U.S. states which vote Republican are more generous to charities than those states which vote Democratic. "My father, who kept a charity box for the poor in our house," he writes, "would have frowned on this fact about modern Democrats."[28] This leads him to his third reason—economic policy—for leaving the Democratic Party. He writes:

Democrats would reply that taxation and government services are better vehicles for helping the underprivileged. And, yes, government certainly has its role. But when you look at states where Democrats have enjoyed years of one-party dominance—California, Illinois, New York—you find that their liberal policies simply don't deliver on their promises of social justice. Take, for example, President Obama's adopted home state. In October, a nonpartisan study of Illinois's finances by the State Budget Crisis Task Force offered painful evidence that liberal Illinois is suffering from abject economic, demographic and social decline. With the worst credit rating in the country, and with the second-biggest public debt per capita, the Prairie State "has been doing back flips on a high wire, without a net," according to the report.

He's right on all 3 counts...the horror!

Whats he doing that Soros isn't?
 
Re: Israeli elections take dramatic turn as official tally gives Likud sweeping victo

The Arab leagues official policy has been to refuse Palestinian refugees since the fifties they were hoping that when they invaded Israel again the Palestinians would be a fifth column, but they didn't bet on losing the 6 day or the 73 peace agreement with Sadat.

Still they will not accept them. And the Palestinians traditional allies like Hezbollah are now fighting ISIS and they don't care about lazy Palestinians griping about Israeli building when they're dying and bleeding to save Asad from Sunni exteemists

Thats true, in the mean time Israel supplies them with utilities, and makes them citizens with voting rights-things which they would not get elsewhere.
I know they aren't happy, but its ironic that in many ways they are treated better by Israel than their supposed arab brethren.
 
Re: Israeli elections take dramatic turn as official tally gives Likud sweeping victo

Interesting article, it suggests that this was yet another failure of the Obama administration, even if not official policy.

Figures you read as far as the Obama administration involvement and quit. Read on and you'll see that interference in Israeli election outcomes goes back to the first Bush administration, the article points out that there's been bi-partisan interference in Israeli elections. That's pro democracy.
 
Re: Israeli elections take dramatic turn as official tally gives Likud sweeping victo

Figures you read as far as the Obama administration involvement and quit. Read on and you'll see that interference in Israeli election outcomes goes back to the first Bush administration, the article points out that there's been bi-partisan interference in Israeli elections. That's pro democracy.

I read the entire article, I dont know enough about US-Israeli inside politics, but I do know this thread is about the election Netanyahu won today, and that Obama is the US president in power.
 
Re: Israeli elections take dramatic turn as official tally gives Likud sweeping victo

I read the entire article, I dont know enough about US-Israeli inside politics, but I do know this thread is about the election Netanyahu won today, and that Obama is the US president in power.


To the bolded!!!!!!
Better start learning then. US interference in Israeli elections far predates Obama.
 
Re: Israeli elections take dramatic turn as official tally gives Likud sweeping victo

This is why I like political debates - no room for circle jerks.
 
Re: Israeli elections take dramatic turn as official tally gives Likud sweeping victo

Figures you read as far as the Obama administration involvement and quit. Read on and you'll see tha-pt interference in Israeli election outcomes goes back to the first Bush administration, the article points out that there's been bi-partisan interference in Israeli elections. That's pro democracy.

insults, propaganda and revised history....a steady diet that has become droll, pointless and boring.

So what?

One, it is not in any way democratic, telling foreigners how to vote is, to use your terminology, "imperialism"

Again, so what that it has happened before, that is always your defense for the loser you love so much [non-partisan my pimpled ass] in pretty much every mis deed, even dating back to Eisenhower in one of your claims.

And again I ask, so what? Because the country you hate can't change even when it is promised by a two-bit rock star community organizer who cannot tell the truth.

And again I ask where is the CHANGE in hope and change....most Americans gave up hope after 2012...
 
Re: Israeli elections take dramatic turn as official tally gives Likud sweeping victo

All this sound and fury over the result of an election in a small country thousands of miles from the US that serves no political, military or economic utility to it whatsoever ! Indeed the opposite could often be argued.

Go figure :roll:
 
Re: Israeli elections take dramatic turn as official tally gives Likud sweeping victo

All this sound and fury over the result of an election in a small country thousands of miles from the US that serves no political, military or economic utility to it whatsoever ! Indeed the opposite could often be argued.

Go figure :roll:

Obama and the US media essentially campaigned against Bibi over the last several months. I think it was for daring to publicly disagreeing with Obama.
 
Re: Israeli elections take dramatic turn as official tally gives Likud sweeping victo

Obama and the US media essentially campaigned against Bibi over the last several months. I think it was for daring to publicly disagreeing with Obama.

Why should any American much less its president be campaigning on behalf of anyone in elections in a small country on the other side of the world ?
 
Re: Israeli elections take dramatic turn as official tally gives Likud sweeping victo

Why should any American much less its president be campaigning on behalf of anyone in elections in a small country on the other side of the world ?

I don't really know. People keep talking about how Israel is such a strong ally....but what has the US gotten out of this relationship? Israel just comes running with its palm pointed to the sky looking for handouts, meanwhile it uses our carte blanche backing of them to bully everyone around them. There’s nothing we get from Israel that can’t easily be supplied from someone else.

Time to let Israel go do what Israel wants to do, but without our involvement. They are a sovereign nation and free to make up their own minds, but I don’t want to fight their wars, I don’t want to fund their government any longer. There’s enough broken things in America to spend money on.
 
Re: Israeli elections take dramatic turn as official tally gives Likud sweeping victo

Netanyahu came from behind to take the 2015 election, I say good. He will easily be able to lead a coalition with other right wing parties in Israel. Looks like his speech to the US didn't hurt him after all. Obama must be pissed. :cool:

Here is the official Knesset tally (ie not exit polling):
http://www.votes20.gov.il/

Well, I saw a headline that read something like: The Hard Right Wins the Night.

So, I'm guessing that in recent years - all of the nations whose citizens have voted in "High Office Right Wing Seats"...they see it's time to vote in a parent like authority to run their lives in a more controlling manner.

In other words, in the process of voting for the Right Wings, voters knew it would also mean that their allowance would be cut, their curfews would become more strict, their behaviors more scrutinized, and punishments will be more severe.

And when the voters get mad at their right wing parents they'll get a divorce from them and adopt new parent that are more lenient and liberal. That's world history in a nutshell.

So in the end...business as usual.
 
Re: Israeli elections take dramatic turn as official tally gives Likud sweeping victo

insults, propaganda and revised history....a steady diet that has become droll, pointless and boring.

So what?

One, it is not in any way democratic, telling foreigners how to vote is, to use your terminology, "imperialism"

Again, so what that it has happened before, that is always your defense for the loser you love so much [non-partisan my pimpled ass] in pretty much every mis deed, even dating back to Eisenhower in one of your claims.

And again I ask, so what? Because the country you hate can't change even when it is promised by a two-bit rock star community organizer who cannot tell the truth.

And again I ask where is the CHANGE in hope and change....most Americans gave up hope after 2012...

It was sarcastic, the pro democracy statement! You should have known that. What do you mean, so what. It's my question to you concerning your opinion. Pay some attention to Canada, and what ails you.
 
Re: Israeli elections take dramatic turn as official tally gives Likud sweeping victo

It was sarcastic, the pro democracy statement! You should have known that. What do you mean, so what. It's my question to you concerning your opinion. Pay some attention to Canada, and what ails you.

Your sarcasm always comes across so well, because your posts are known for their nuance.
 
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