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    Re: White House office to delete its FOIA regulations

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Hi Kobie.

    Shouldn't we be judging administrations on their own merits instead of looking back to see how we can justify wrongs?
    Thats a great question for Kobie.

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    Re: White House office to delete its FOIA regulations

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Well, I haven't tried to justify any wrongs by anyone, so bark up another tree.

    You really don't think quoting out of context to demonize one administration and leaving out the previous one, who did the SAME THING, is a little disingenuous?
    Kobie, it illustrates Obama's hypocrisy-its ok when he does it-just not when others do it.

    I dont understand why you are the first to defend him.

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    Re: White House office to delete its FOIA regulations

    Yeah, it's pretty plain to see that this is the Most Open And Transparent Administration--not!
    Still you would think that somebody in the MOATA would see the irony of doing this
    during National Freedom of Information Day and Sunshine Week!

    Hey, how about this little gem from March 2011 ?
    Obama finally accepts his transparency award... behind closed doors

    You can't make this stuff up!

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    Re: White House office to delete its FOIA regulations

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The bolded is deceptive and out of context. This practice, says your link, began during the Bush administration. Blame the court if you don't like this.

    In 2009, a federal appeals court in Washington ruled that the Office of Administration was not subject to the FOIA, "because it performs only operational and administrative tasks in support of the president and his staff and therefore, under our precedent, lacks substantial independent authority."
    It doesn't matter what happened during Bush, because Obama made the claim he was going to be better than Bush or anyone else for that matter. He lied.
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    Re: White House office to delete its FOIA regulations

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    While this lack of transparency is troublesome, you quoted the article terribly out of context.
    And again, for a group of people who voted for Obama as the not-Bush it is funny to see you all take turns excusing Obama's actions because Bush did them as well.

    So this is George Bush's 4th term. We get it.
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    Re: White House office to delete its FOIA regulations

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Kobie, it illustrates Obama's hypocrisy-its ok when he does it-just not when others do it.

    I dont understand why you are the first to defend him.
    Do you know how to read? Please quote the post where I said it was OK for him to do it.

    You're lying. Again.
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    Re: White House office to delete its FOIA regulations

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    And again, for a group of people who voted for Obama as the not-Bush it is funny to see you all take turns excusing Obama's actions because Bush did them as well.

    So this is George Bush's 4th term. We get it.
    Apparently you can't read either. Please quote the post where I defended or excused this action.

    You're lying too. Apparently, when the liberals don't say what you want them to say, you just lie and say they did, and then attack that.

    Oh, and by the way, you totally ignored the thrust of my post, which was that he quoted that article out of context. Which he did. That's not "excusing" anything. Learn to read.
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    Re: White House office to delete its FOIA regulations

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Apparently you can't read either. Please quote the post where I defended or excused this action.

    You're lying too. Apparently, when the liberals don't say what you want them to say, you just lie and say they did, and then attack that.

    Oh, and by the way, you totally ignored the thrust of my post, which was that he quoted that article out of context. Which he did. That's not "excusing" anything. Learn to read.
    Hah, keep pushing that lie Kobie.

    To your credit, your motivations for pushing the "B-b-but BUSH!" argument are far more transparent than the Obama administration.
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    Re: White House office to delete its FOIA regulations

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Hah, keep pushing that lie Kobie.

    To your credit, your motivations for pushing the "B-b-but BUSH!" argument are far more transparent than the Obama administration.
    True dat.

    He always prefaces his defense of Dear Leader by saying he's not an Obama fan...

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    Re: White House office to delete its FOIA regulations

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Kobie, it illustrates Obama's hypocrisy-its ok when he does it-just not when others do it.

    I dont understand why you are the first to defend him.
    What?? There's no defense offered up for Obama. It would have been better had FOIA regulations remained in place. Think the next GOP president will replace them, hmm?

    – Issa Tried To Kill A Landmark Expansion Of FOIA Law: In 2007, a bipartisan bill HR 1309 was proposed to expand the FOIA process, including a tracking system for submitters to view the status of their request, new reporting requirements for congressional oversight, and a provision to ensure that requests not processed within twenty days would not require a fee. The Bush administration fought vigorously against the bill. Issa even sponsored an amendment to the bill to kill off the proposed “open records policy,” claiming Al Qaeda would “harvest” the data. In the end, the bill passed by an overwhelming majority in the House, despite Issa’s “no” vote. Unfortunately, it died in the Senate.
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