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Obama, first lady fly to Los Angeles on same day but take separate flights

Re: This is the entitlement mentality that creates a $18,500,000,000,000 ND.

JANFU said:
That we have - making Fiesta brews- 23 liter wart kits- though they do get in Muntons from GB. 2 cans, thicker than molasses concentrated - boll the water, not tap water, heat the cans to warm the wart - more work- better product.
A fellow i know warms the wart then adds the Hops, brings to a boil, lets it simmers, as hops is quite expansive. Ehen i have time I may try that
I like a Pilsner, IPA for the hops taste, and a few others. Store bought I go for Warsteiner, in Germany from the keg, when poured properly, simply delicious.
Also they have a nice German Bock, very tasty, tad sweet at times but as mentioned tasty as heck.
Going to look around for other type kits, though, 23 liter warts are the best way imho, excepting the Muntons concentrate.
Best homemade wine I made was from fresh blueberries.
I may have the recipe around. I can look if you wish?
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Don't go to any trouble, but if you can find it fairly easily, that'd be great. :) Thanks.
 
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No, $1 trillion wars for the benefit of halliburton creates debt. The taxpayers refusing to pay for what they spend creates national debt

The kind of spending done by both parties on air force one doesn't remotely scratch the surface. It's more like what the queen of england wastes every year. It's pretty pathetic that while there were serious grievances over practically everything Bush II did, this kind of petty bitching is what Republican News obsesses over. They have created their own monster and they almost make me pity the dems for having to interact with such children at all

Also ridiculous to think that unless they are having some kind of private feud, the obamas WANT to fly separately
 
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countryboy said:
Yeah, at the very least it's called, being out of touch. It's sad when it is considered "petty" to gripe about a mere $28,000 per hour.
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Compared to $18.5 *trillion* yes it is freaking petty. A lot of that cost is unavoidable too. It's called security, and it's something BOTH parties demand when they have the presidency. Not to mention the prez or first lady coming into town can actually boost a local economy

Next we will see faux news crying hysterically over the cost of the sunglasses used by secret service
 
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Chainsaw said:
Oh course, the two flew to LA for real important national interest sh1t, ie appear on two TV shows on the same day. It is unreasonable to expect that the two welfare queens ride on the same plane? The two have the entitlement mentality, the only difference is the size of the welfare check.
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The jealous leeks right thru your computer screen
 
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chromium said:
Compared to $18.5 *trillion* yes it is freaking petty. A lot of that cost is unavoidable too. It's called security, and it's something BOTH parties demand when they have the presidency. Not to mention the prez or first lady coming into town can actually boost a local economy

Next we will see faux news crying hysterically over the cost of the sunglasses used by secret service
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It must be comforting to know that having standards that are always relative means you have nothing to worry about. As for boosting a local economy, have you ever lived in a place where the President and First Lady visit regularly? They have a unique ability to snarl traffic in a major way.
 
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AliHajiSheik said:
It must be comforting to know that having standards that are always relative means you have nothing to worry about. As for boosting a local economy, have you ever lived in a place where the President and First Lady visit regularly? They have a unique ability to snarl traffic in a major way.
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Well i did drive down the e-way once on the opposite side of a prez motorcade, during the campaign. I didn't find it inconvenient at all, and they tend to visit places near major airports, or use a helicopter rather than driving.

I'm contesting the absurd claim in the OP title is all. My standards is there is no need for these visits to far flung talk show filming, or for campaigning. It might not get the audience riled up, but he can appear on a damn tv screen from washington

But he has a right to travel for personal reasons as well, whether it's to see a dying grandma or go on vacation, and for security and job performance, it's gonna be on air force one. Bush II did it dozens of times

Either way, i won't throw a goddamn fit about it and pretend it's responsible for the national debt
 
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chromium said:
Well i did drive down the e-way once on the opposite side of a prez motorcade, during the campaign. I didn't find it inconvenient at all, and they tend to visit places near major airports, or use a helicopter rather than driving.

I'm contesting the absurd claim in the OP title is all. My standards is there is no need for these visits to far flung talk show filming, or for campaigning. It might not get the audience riled up, but he can appear on a damn tv screen from washington

But he has a right to travel for personal reasons as well, whether it's to see a dying grandma or go on vacation, and for security and job performance, it's gonna be on air force one. Bush II did it dozens of times

Either way, i won't throw a goddamn fit about it and pretend it's responsible for the national debt
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Well, this isn't too old, but this is typical of what we face in a big city The President does visit often: Prepare For Traffic During President Obama Visit To Philadelphia « CBS Philly. He flies to our airport and then motorcades wherever he needs to be. It isn't just the President, but the First Lady and the Vice-President and even the Second Lady. If they are going to the same city then they can damn well travel on the same plane when it is on the tax payer dime. Would they use two planes if they were picking up the tab? We know the answer to that.
 
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AliHajiSheik said:
Well, this isn't too old, but this is typical of what we face in a big city The President does visit often: Prepare For Traffic During President Obama Visit To Philadelphia « CBS Philly. He flies to our airport and then motorcades wherever he needs to be. It isn't just the President, but the First Lady and the Vice-President and even the Second Lady. If they are going to the same city then they can damn well travel on the same plane when it is on the tax payer dime. Would they use two planes if they were picking up the tab? We know the answer to that.
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If i were them, i would be sure to not make this 'mistake' again, just to cut down on the useless uproar. But then it'd occur to me that repubs and faux news will have a raging hardon to criticize me no matter what, so i'd just shrug my shoulders and order a 3rd plane for my dog to make an extra trip on that same day

It's like how i'd handle the birth certificate racist horse**** - dress up in a traditional kenyan outfit and have my portrait painted and hang it next to washington
 
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chromium said:
If i were them, i would be sure to not make this 'mistake' again, just to cut down on the useless uproar. But then it'd occur to me that repubs and faux news will have a raging hardon to criticize me no matter what, so i'd just shrug my shoulders and order a 3rd plane for my dog to make an extra trip on that same day

It's like how i'd handle the birth certificate racist horse**** - dress up in a traditional kenyan outfit and have my portrait painted and hang it next to washington
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So you don't think it was a mistake? Do you think it is hard to not look like a hack when criticizing other hacks?
 
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AliHajiSheik said:
So you don't think it was a mistake? Do you think it is hard to not look like a hack when criticizing other hacks?
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I already explained i think they shouldn't have gone, but that this is massive overreaction from a party network (and its viewers) that had NO objections to Bush II sauntering out to texas on a regular basis on the taxpayer dime

And that's all i care to say unless it's to make fun of the overreactions
 
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molten_dragon said:
They had different schedules, so it didn't make sense to fly together. This is a non-issue.
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I hate to break this to you, but the American people didn't elect the Michelle, so who gives a damn about her schedule? If she was flying off to meet with a world leaders wife, OK. But to take two planes to LA on the same day to appear on Ellen, just because the Mooch couldn't adjust her 'important schedule', really proves my entitlement mentality point.
 
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