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    Re: This is the entitlement mentality that creates a $18,500,000,000,000 ND.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chainsaw View Post
    As intended. How many times have you heard liberals snivel that Obama is the most fiscally conservative president? Does taking two planes to LA on the same day for appear on TV programs sound like guy/couple who gives a damn about being responsible with other peoples money?
    Who, exactly, has claimed that Obama is the most fiscally conservative president? You arguing with the liberals in your head again?

    Glad to see that at least you admit you're being ridiculously petty.
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    Re: This is the entitlement mentality that creates a $18,500,000,000,000 ND.

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Like I said, foreign concept. Thanks for the verification, not that it was needed.

    What style is your home made beer? I'm having a Sierra Nevada Beer Camp 2015 Hoppy Lager, as we speak. Maybe we can find common ground after all.
    That we have - making Fiesta brews- 23 liter wart kits- though they do get in Muntons from GB. 2 cans, thicker than molasses concentrated - boll the water, not tap water, heat the cans to warm the wart - more work- better product.
    A fellow i know warms the wart then adds the Hops, brings to a boil, lets it simmers, as hops is quite expansive. Ehen i have time I may try that
    I like a Pilsner, IPA for the hops taste, and a few others. Store bought I go for Warsteiner, in Germany from the keg, when poured properly, simply delicious.
    Also they have a nice German Bock, very tasty, tad sweet at times but as mentioned tasty as heck.
    Going to look around for other type kits, though, 23 liter warts are the best way imho, excepting the Muntons concentrate.
    Best homemade wine I made was from fresh blueberries.
    I may have the recipe around. I can look if you wish?
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    Re: This is the entitlement mentality that creates a $18,500,000,000,000 ND.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post

    Glad to see that at least you admit you're being ridiculously petty.
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    Re: This is the entitlement mentality that creates a $18,500,000,000,000 ND.

    Okay, we get it. It's not their money, so they don't care, they spend as much of it as possible and don't give a crap. They are entitled.

    But what I've noticed about these two is, they sure do travel, vacation, whatever separately very often. What's going on there? They sure don't seem to want to be around each other very much. Even the Clintons made an effort. These two are very happy to be apart.

    When I first saw them, it was apparent that he's a bit effeminate and she's quite mannish. Very strange couple, I don't see much affection at all between them. Just an observation.
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    Re: This is the entitlement mentality that creates a $18,500,000,000,000 ND.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chainsaw View Post
    As intended. How many times have you heard liberals snivel that Obama is the most fiscally conservative president? Does taking two planes to LA on the same day for appear on TV programs sound like guy/couple who gives a damn about being responsible with other peoples money?
    Sorry - I'm just not that beat up about it. This whole "take care of the pennies, and the dollars will take care of themselves" extremism that is rampant everywhere takes away from focus on the real issues.

    I know that many people fixate on the minutia because it's easier to understand and relative to their own lives. Flying in two planes seems wasteful, but the President's agenda shouldn't and must not be impacted by the First Lady's agenda and both have offices and budgets, as approved by Congress, and as long as they operate within those budgets, what's the big deal?

    Now, if you're going to say that the Obama's have been spending at vastly increased levels from the Bush Presidency, then that might be an issue, but the one-offs are just petty, in my view. And by focusing on the petty you let people skate on the bigger issues. In government, it's a well known practice by bureaucrats to put one contentious nonsense item on an agenda so the politicians and the public have something to chew on - say a $100,000 conference - and add a couple of really complicated and expensive items - tens or hundreds of millions - later on. The politicians and public wear themselves out blasting the conference and the really big stuff gets basically ignored and passed.

    All I'm saying is try to focus on the bigger picture.
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    Re: This is the entitlement mentality that creates a $18,500,000,000,000 ND.

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    That we have - making Fiesta brews- 23 liter wart kits- though they do get in Muntons from GB. 2 cans, thicker than molasses concentrated - boll the water, not tap water, heat the cans to warm the wart - more work- better product.
    A fellow i know warms the wart then adds the Hops, brings to a boil, lets it simmers, as hops is quite expansive. Ehen i have time I may try that
    I like a Pilsner, IPA for the hops taste, and a few others. Store bought I go for Warsteiner, in Germany from the keg, when poured properly, simply delicious.
    Also they have a nice German Bock, very tasty, tad sweet at times but as mentioned tasty as heck.
    Going to look around for other type kits, though, 23 liter warts are the best way imho, excepting the Muntons concentrate.
    Best homemade wine I made was from fresh blueberries.
    I may have the recipe around. I can look if you wish?
    Don't go to any trouble, but if you can find it fairly easily, that'd be great. Thanks.

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    Re: This is the entitlement mentality that creates a $18,500,000,000,000 ND.

    They had different schedules, so it didn't make sense to fly together. This is a non-issue.
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    Re: This is the entitlement mentality that creates a $18,500,000,000,000 ND.

    No, $1 trillion wars for the benefit of halliburton creates debt. The taxpayers refusing to pay for what they spend creates national debt

    The kind of spending done by both parties on air force one doesn't remotely scratch the surface. It's more like what the queen of england wastes every year. It's pretty pathetic that while there were serious grievances over practically everything Bush II did, this kind of petty bitching is what Republican News obsesses over. They have created their own monster and they almost make me pity the dems for having to interact with such children at all

    Also ridiculous to think that unless they are having some kind of private feud, the obamas WANT to fly separately
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    Re: This is the entitlement mentality that creates a $18,500,000,000,000 ND.

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Yeah, at the very least it's called, being out of touch. It's sad when it is considered "petty" to gripe about a mere $28,000 per hour.
    Compared to $18.5 *trillion* yes it is freaking petty. A lot of that cost is unavoidable too. It's called security, and it's something BOTH parties demand when they have the presidency. Not to mention the prez or first lady coming into town can actually boost a local economy

    Next we will see faux news crying hysterically over the cost of the sunglasses used by secret service

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    Re: This is the entitlement mentality that creates a $18,500,000,000,000 ND.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chainsaw View Post
    Oh course, the two flew to LA for real important national interest sh1t, ie appear on two TV shows on the same day. It is unreasonable to expect that the two welfare queens ride on the same plane? The two have the entitlement mentality, the only difference is the size of the welfare check.
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