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Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother[W:52]

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sadly for you, your desire to impose the Dunblane Bed wetting on us won't happen and wouldn't do much. More than half those deaths are suicides. and of the remaining cases which are murder-more than 80% of the murder victims and the murderers are already banned from owning guns. If you don't do drugs, or hang out with drug dealers your chances of being murdered with a gun are very low. Indeed, us white americans have a lower rate of violent crime than you whites in England

The guns your criminals use were once legally owned . And your guns make suicide that much easier to successfully commit. As long as the guns are safe though who cares about the victims of them right ?
 
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The guns your criminals use were once legally owned . And your guns make suicide that much easier to successfully commit. As long as the guns are safe though who cares about the victims of them right ?

so why does Japan have a higher suicide rate than the USA. I am not going to piss away my freedom to appease those who allowed it to happen to them. Your pathetic attempt to try to make gun owners feel guilty for something they have no responsibility for is not going to work.
 
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I guess you don't understand that if you are sued, and win it still costs you money and if those suits are financed by cities who can tax their citizens more and more to pay for them, defending such suits becomes financially burdensome

Then if that is truly a serious flaw in our legal system change that law FOR EVERYONE - not just rigged to politically pay off gun manufacturers and dealers.
 
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Your pathetic attempt to try to make gun owners feel guilty for something they have no responsibility for is not going to work.

Oh I know its not going to work, just as I know gun advocates are very much collectively responsible for the lethal consequences their obsession has for tens of thousands of US families every year.
 
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Then if that is truly a serious flaw in our legal system change that law FOR EVERYONE - not just rigged to politically pay off gun manufacturers and dealers.

you are avoiding the obvious question. why should people be able to use frivolous lawsuits to bankrupt industries they don't like?
 
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Oh I know its not going to work, just as I know gun advocates are very much collectively responsible for the lethal consequences their obsession has for tens of thousands of US families every year.

so you are admitting your arguments are based on a cultural hatred of people who think firearms ownership is a good thing. sorry, we reject your attempt to smear us with guilt based on what criminals do. that your country engaged in collective bed wetting over dunblane is not something rational adults in this nation are going to stand for
 
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you are avoiding the obvious question. why should people be able to use frivolous lawsuits to bankrupt industries they don't like?

I gave you an answer. Frivolous is in the eye of the beholder. The Constitution of the USA gives all of us the right to sue in court. Do NOT deny that to us because of political payoffs given as special favors.
 
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Te word you are looking for is not IRRELEVANT but rather INCONVENIENT. Every time a person shoots a gun at another person or creature they are using that weapon for the purpose it was created in the first place.

No irrelevant was the word I was looking for. Even if I grant that all firearms were designed with the express purpose of killing things it's still irrelevant because killing things is often legal. Because it is legal to use the firearm for it's intended purpose the mere fact that someone uses it illegally is not the fault of the manufacturer.
 
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I gave you an answer. Frivolous is in the eye of the beholder. The Constitution of the USA gives all of us the right to sue in court. Do NOT deny that to us because of political payoffs given as special favors.

so if the court throws the suit out-as the courts have done with the vast majority of those suits, should the plaintiffs have to compensate the gun makers for their costs? Do you comprehend the fact that its still legal to sue gun makers for product liability or if the gun maker knowingly supplies guns to prohibited persons?

what other industry is sued when its product is not defective?
 
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so you are admitting your arguments are based on a cultural hatred of people who think firearms ownership is a good thing. sorry, we reject your attempt to smear us with guilt based on what criminals do. that your country engaged in collective bed wetting over dunblane is not something rational adults in this nation are going to stand for

Yes indeed. As long as its somebody elses loved ones and not yours that are the victims of your next high school massacre why should you care ? As long as your guns are protected thats all that matters right ? :roll:
 
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Yes indeed. As long as its somebody elses loved ones and not yours that are the victims of your next high school massacre why should you care ? As long as your guns are protected thats all that matters right ? :roll:

why should I give up my sport and my hobby so foreigners can smugly claim that Americans are now as miserable as they are? why do you care about our country? If you want to wallow in self righteousness go for it but stop telling us what we ought to do. we bailed your asses out of two world wars, and in the Second WW, you Brits were asking us Yanks to send you firearms so you could fend off the Nazi hordes. Lots of Americans who knew how to shoot kept you all free and a bunch of them died doing that
 
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Yes indeed. As long as its somebody elses loved ones and not yours that are the victims of your next high school massacre why should you care ? As long as your guns are protected thats all that matters right ? :roll:

What does going after an innocent third party have to do with it? The victims of a shooting are the victims of the people who shot them and no one else.
 
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why should I give up my sport and my hobby so foreigners can smugly claim that Americans are now as miserable as they are? why do you care about our country? If you want to wallow in self righteousness go for it but stop telling us what we ought to do. we bailed your asses out of two world wars, and in the Second WW, you Brits were asking us Yanks to send you firearms so you could fend off the Nazi hordes. Lots of Americans who knew how to shoot kept you all free and a bunch of them died doing that

A US centric interpretation of WW2 !!! Is that really the best you've got ?:shock:
 
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What does going after an innocent third party have to do with it? The victims of a shooting are the victims of the people who shot them and no one else.

How many illegally owned guns have been used in US high school shootings ?
 
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we bailed your asses out of two world wars, and in the Second WW, you Brits were asking us Yanks to send you firearms so you could fend off the Nazi hordes.

Nobody bailed Great Britain- or France for that matter out of WWI.

Great Britain lost 970,000 men, France lost 1.2 million, and we lost 130,000. Even with out our late arrival, the allies would still have won WWI. WWII, as you referred to, is an entirely different matter.
 
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How many illegally owned guns have been used in US high school shootings ?

all of them, the minute you take a gun to use for illegal purposes you violate the law
 
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WWII, as you referred to, is an entirely different matter.

Yes indeed. The USSR had won that for us long before our military aid to her had made much impact and long before D day.
 
I hope they take all of her estate to warn others of the dangers of unsecured guns. There needs to be consequences if there is to be responsibility. Anything less is a sham.




Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother - CNN.com

This is what I think of every time I learn another one of these senseless shootings has happened. Why are the owners of these guns not being held responsible??? I don't really know what should happen in this case, since the owner of the gun died in the shooting, but I think of Columbine where minors got a hold of all those guns their parents' owned. It makes me so mad.
 
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How many illegally owned guns have been used in US high school shootings ?

And again how does that implicate the manufacturer?
 
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all of them, the minute you take a gun to use for illegal purposes you violate the law

BS . Every one of your massacres has involved what would be termed a legally owned firearm.
 
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BS . Every one of your massacres has involved what would be termed a legally owned firearm.

you apparently know little about the laws in the USA. possession of a firearm with the intent to commit a crime is illegal
 
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you apparently know little about the laws in the USA. possession of a firearm with the intent to commit a crime is illegal

I lived there for two years. You are simply dodging now in order to defend your firearms.
 
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I lived there for two years. You are simply dodging now in order to defend your firearms.

I don't need to defend my firearms. They are legal to own and the petulant complaints of foreigners is not going to change that
 
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I don't need to defend my firearms. They are legal to own and the petulant complaints of foreigners is not going to change that

I'm sure yet another 30,000 US families will disagree with you by this time next year :(
 
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I'm sure yet another 30,000 of your families will disagree with you by this time next year :(

many of them are suicides. what sort of punishment is going to deter a suicide?

tell us why are you so afraid of Americans owning guns?
 
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