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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    I'm sure it has been ....and just about as regularly as there have been lottery winners
    Even if that is so. There are sooo many other inanimate objects that could be used as examples. Bats. Hammers. Knives. Etc etc etc. All of them add up to more murders than guns.

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Of course its is. Its an attempt to excuse firearms killing and protect guns
    Except that this isn't actually about guns. Its actually about some people suing someone that never once used a gun or anything else to hurt anyone. Which is the very reason that I've been asking you a very pointed question. Which you refuse to actually answer because it would show the hypocrisy of your stance. Your very denial to answer the question shows the hypocrisy. You know very well that you would not and should not be held responsible for your grown child's actions of murdering someone with something that is yours. And note how that is phrased. Not once is the word "gun" used in it. Why? Because what is used to kill is irrelevant to what is actually being done by these families that in their grief and anger are being goaded into by money grubbing lawyers. And I would bet a years subscription to DP that many people agree with my stance more than yours. Including people there in Wokingham England.

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Unlike you my reasoning and logic allow me to distinguish between what is and is not a weapon
    Ask any cop or lawyer. A car can be and has been considered as a weapon before. So have bats, knives, hammers etc etc etc. Of course you don't have to take my word for it. Here is a legal definition of weapon.

    Weapon Law & Legal Definition

    "Section 13.68.010 Dangerous weapon--Defined.

    As used in this chapter, "dangerous weapon" means and includes, but is not limited to:
    Any knife having a blade three inches or more in length, or any snap-blade or spring-blade knife regardless of the length of the blade;
    Any ice pick or similar sharp stabbing tool;
    Any straight edge razor or any razor blade fitted to a handle;
    Any cutting, stabbing or bludgeoning weapon or device capable of inflicting grievous bodily harm;
    Any dirk or dagger or bludgeon;
    Any "taser public defender" or other similar electronic immobilizer which causes, by means of an electrical current, a person to experience muscle spasms and extreme pain, followed by unconsciousness. (Ord. 4814-NS 1, 1975: Ord. 2881-NS 1, 1947)"
    Cars would fall under the bolded part there btw. I know you want to pretend that the world is full of rainbows and roses, but reality shows that pretty much anything can be a weapon.
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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother[W:52]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    And to kill others with guns to back their own ideology. Isn't that what Pol Pot, Stalin, Mao, and the rest did? I guess we're finally seeing the true nature come out right here on DP.
    The people who see fit to wallow in the delusion that they need guns to one day rebel and make war against America, its government and its people are simply hollow barrels engaged in machismo chest thumping designed and crafted to largely impress each other. They are no more going to do that than they are going to reasonably discuss the entire issue of firearms ownership. Its all show and no go.
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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother[W:52]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    The people who see fit to wallow in the delusion that they need guns to one day rebel and make war against America, its government and its people are simply hollow barrels engaged in machismo chest thumping designed and crafted to largely impress each other. They are no more going to do that than they are going to reasonably discuss the entire issue of firearms ownership. Its all show and no go.
    Nor is your wish to murder current gun owners, which is pure Lunatic Fringe material.

    It mirrors the anti-abortion folks who justifying murdering abortion doctors - killing is OK as long as you are the one deciding who gets killed.
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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother[W:52]

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Nor is your wish to murder current gun owners, which is pure Lunatic Fringe material.

    It mirrors the anti-abortion folks who justifying murdering abortion doctors - killing is OK as long as you are the one deciding who gets killed.
    So how would you want the authorities to handle armed violent rebellion?
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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother[W:52]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    So how would you want the authorities to handle armed violent rebellion?
    Ah, so now you salivate about the fact that gun owners won't accept the murder of their numbers, will rightfully rebel, and you get to slaughter even more?

    That thought just fills your heart with glee, doesn't it?

    Nice.

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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother[W:52]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    what is hilarious is gun banners' dreams for a "gun free America" requires men with guns to carry out that dream
    Delicious irony indeed, eh?

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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    No lets not indulge that blatant dodge again. In my country even our kiddies know there is no moral equivalency between a weapon and a mode of transportation
    Is that what the government has taught them?

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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Even if that is so. There are sooo many other inanimate objects that could be used as examples. Bats. Hammers. Knives. Etc etc etc. All of them add up to more murders than guns.
    No they do not. Three quarters of your murders involve a firearm

    Except that this isn't actually about guns. Its actually about some people suing someone that never once used a gun or anything else to hurt anyone. Which is the very reason that I've been asking you a very pointed question. Which you refuse to actually answer because it would show the hypocrisy of your stance
    I did answer you affirming that their estate should be sued

    Your very denial to answer the question shows the hypocrisy. You know very well that you would not and should not be held responsible for your grown child's actions of murdering someone with something that is yours. And note how that is phrased. Not once is the word "gun" used in it. Why? Because what is used to kill is irrelevant to what is actually being done by these families that in their grief and anger are being goaded into by money grubbing lawyers. And I would bet a years subscription to DP that many people agree with my stance more than yours. Including people there in Wokingham England.
    The only people agreeing with your stance here would be those locked up in Broadmoor just down the road

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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Is that what the government has taught them?
    No just the use of their common sense

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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    the proximity to a nation that freely allows 300 million of them in circulation next door is clearly a major problem for mexico

    guns from u.s. Flood into mexico - democratic underground
    du-lol



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