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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    This point has been made time and again, in this thread and others. Including by me in the last couple of pages.

    So you are lying to pretend you dont know why we're making the comparison.

    That's all ya got left? Flat out lies?
    I was hoping against hope that you could actually come up with a reason why you use the comparison that truly makes sense. You see - I have not seen one so far.

    Got one?
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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    1) stop shouting
    The bold tool is provided by the Board.

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    I will use the tools provided by the Board for my use as I see fit and within the rules.

    2) gun banners will never say what law is one too many or what infringement is one too much

    3) the only dishonesty comes from the gun banners who pretend their goal is less crime
    You just did it yet again.

    What is the point of anyone posting here if your attitude is YOU ARE LYING IF YOU DISAGREE WITH ME.

    It is your all purpose phony ace up your sleeve card that pretends to permit you to discount anything anyone actually says and merely use it as springboard #1,278 or so in going off on a rant and screaming about "gun banners" and "their real desires.

    How can any site have intelligent discussion between people with different views if you approach things from that dishonest perspective?
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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I was hoping against hope that you could actually come up with a reason why you use the comparison that truly makes sense. You see - I have not seen one so far.

    Got one?
    you have claimed that the sole or at worst, main purpose, of a firearm is to kill

    cars are not designed to kill

    yet cars are used to kill far more people in the USA than firearms

    and yet gun banners worry about firearms

    seems like a disconnect from reality if public safety is the issue



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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
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    You just did it yet again.

    What is the point of anyone posting here if your attitude is YOU ARE LYING IF YOU DISAGREE WITH ME.

    It is your all purpose phony ace up your sleeve card that pretends to permit you to discount anything anyone actually says and merely use it as springboard #1,278 or so in going off on a rant and screaming about "gun banners" and "their real desires.

    How can any site have intelligent discussion between people with different views if you approach things from that dishonest perspective?
    dishonesty is dishonesty. My position doesn't change or modify that.

    Gun banners are reticent about telling us their ultimate goals

    gun advocates have no need to be dishonest-we want our rights not infringed

    anti freedom advocates cannot honestly tell us their motivations since those real motivations are rejected by many Americans



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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Maybe you could try your sarcasm out on the victims families of the next high school massacre (which is never long delayed Stateside) I'm sure they will appreciate it
    I'm sure the families of the victims of gun shootings who you know appreciate your concern over their feelings. You do know some, right? I know one.

    Now, do plan to become a US citizen so you can vote on representatives to go to DC and make your dreams of gun banning come true, or do you just plan to share your opinions on how we run our country on message boards?
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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you have claimed that the sole or at worst, main purpose, of a firearm is to kill
    I stated that was the purpose of the invention of the firearm. And you agreed that it was.

    cars are not designed to kill
    Cars have nothing to do with this and any attempt to dishonestly compare cars to guns is the worst sort of intellectual fraud.

    yet cars are used to kill far more people in the USA than firearms
    see the previous statement.

    and yet gun banners worry about firearms

    seems like a disconnect from reality if public safety is the issue
    Why is being concerned about gun deaths not a matter of public safety?
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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    dishonesty is dishonesty. My position doesn't change or modify that.

    Gun banners are reticent about telling us their ultimate goals

    gun advocates have no need to be dishonest-we want our rights not infringed

    anti freedom advocates cannot honestly tell us their motivations since those real motivations are rejected by many Americans
    You just did it yet again. You cannot even stop yourself from doing it again and again when you are discussing the very dishonest thing you do.

    What is the point of anyone posting here if your attitude is YOU ARE LYING IF YOU DISAGREE WITH ME.

    It is your all purpose phony ace up your sleeve card that pretends to permit you to discount anything anyone actually says and merely use it as springboard #1,280 or so in going off on a rant and screaming about "gun banners" and "their real desires.

    How can any site have intelligent discussion between people with different views if you approach things from that dishonest perspective?
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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    as long as government has arms, so should the people
    You couldn't make this up ! But hey enjoy going up against your own democratically elected government and the largest military in the world that (lets remember) you've paid for to protect you. I'm sure you and your extremist revolutionaries will last all of five minutes !


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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I stated that was the purpose of the invention of the firearm. And you agreed that it was.



    Cars have nothing to do with this and any attempt to dishonestly compare cars to guns is the worst sort of intellectual fraud.



    see the previous statement.



    Why is being concerned about gun deaths not a matter of public safety?
    concern is one thing, trying to strip innocents of their rights for the dishonest claim that such action will increase public safety is pernicious



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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    You couldn't make this up ! But hey enjoy going up against your own democratically elected government and the largest military in the world that (lets remember) you've paid for to protect you. I'm sure you and your extremist revolutionaries will last all of five minutes !

    you are ignorant of what this means. no army is going to win on home turf against 100 million citizens. and no politician who sets the army in action is going to survive more than a couple days in a land where many want him dead



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