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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    So....where are the efforts to reduce all the car deaths? Those could be reduced BY FAR by eliminating private car ownership or greatly restricting it.

    Why isnt that happening? (Thanks btw, you are making my point for me)

    Why are THOSE car-related deaths "acceptable" but the much rarer (even before banned) gun deaths?

    Emotion overcoming common sense is my Reader's Digest comment on that.
    Why not just answer my question rather than hiding behind this increasingly tedious smokescreen ?

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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Yes you do.

    Body count from car accidents, body count from gun incidents.

    You wont answer it, lol, I knew that when I posted it but it's still there for people to read.
    What does the number of people killed in cars have to do with the number of people killed from guns? It is two different things.

    You may as well then use a comparative with any other cause of death and there are hundreds of them.

    Why are you comparing cars to guns?
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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I never said that and you damn well know it because you FAILED to print any quotes from me saying it. It is simply more blatant dishonesty and fraud.

    It speaks volumes about your argument that you have to resort to such tactics.
    No point in trying to backpedal your way out of this one - you are being held accountable by your peers here.

    This will not work!!

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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Why not just answer my question rather than hiding behind this tedious smokescreen ?
    Because America will not make that choice....what you are describing is extremely hypocritical and based on an emotional bias, not fact.

    Your country over-reacted to a terrible incident and banned guns. And yet ignores more deaths in car accidents and does nothing (new) to change that. So it's not about deaths, it's about hypocritical fear of one thing but ignoring it for another 'thing.'
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    What does the number of people killed in cars have to do with the number of people killed from guns? It is two different things.

    You may as well then use a comparative with any other cause of death and there are hundreds of them.

    Why are you comparing cars to guns?
    This point has been made time and again, in this thread and others. Including by me in the last couple of pages.

    So you are lying to pretend you dont know why we're making the comparison.

    That's all ya got left? Flat out lies?
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Because America will not make that choice....what you are describing is extremely hypocritical and based on an emotional bias, not fact.

    Your country over-reacted to a terrible incident and banned guns. And yet ignores more deaths in car accidents and does nothing (new) to change that. So it's not about deaths, it's about hypocritical fear of one thing but ignoring it for another 'thing.'
    Our gun laws now mean I am 40 times less likely to be shot than in the US. Our recent crime figures also show or crime rates across virtually all categories are the lowest since 1981. Whats your point ?

    Crime at lowest level for 30 years | UK news | The Guardian

    What you'd call an over reaction anyone else would call a great success and our gun laws have undoubtedly played their part in that !

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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Our gun laws now mean I am 40 times less likely to be shot than in the US. Our recent crime figures also show or crime rates across virtually all categories are the lowest since 1981. Whats your point ?

    Crime at lowest level for 30 years | UK news | The Guardian

    What you'd call an over reaction anyone else would call a great success and our gun laws have undoubtedly played their part in that !
    So...why arent you reducing car deaths the same way? Seems like you've got a great plan, that's already worked out, proven!

    Like you said...a success and you certainly have a good public transit system set up. WHy not start saving THOSE people, THOSE kids?

    Like I said, just silly. It's not about deaths, it's about manufactured fear.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    So...why arent you reducing car deaths the same way? Seems like you've got a great plan, that's already worked out, proven!

    Like you said...a success and you certainly have a good public transit system set up. WHy not start saving THOSE people, THOSE kids?

    Like I said, just silly. It's not about deaths, it's about manufactured fear.
    Stop dodging and just answer my question ?

    We have car accidents too but almost no gun deaths. You have car accidents PLUS AN ADDITIONAL 30,000 gun deaths per annum. Why is that a good thing ?

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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Stop dodging and just answer my question ?

    We have car accidents too but almost no gun deaths. You have car accidents PLUS AN ADDITIONAL 30,000 gun deaths per annum. Why is that a good thing ?
    No deaths are a good thing. Why is it ok to accept some deaths but not others if they can be prevented?

    There's little rationale behind it. In the US, there is no way to remove the guns from criminals. None. Just like with drugs. In the US guns also save lives.

    We place rights above safety..esp. when we enable...hopefully encourage people...to take responsibility for themselves. Giving people the ability to protect their own rights when possible.

    As a woman living alone on rural acreage far from the police, why should I be forced to give up a good means of protection because of other people's fears? Are they going to suffer my consequences when I am raped or murdered during a break-in? Your crime rates might have gone down but that is little solace to anyone that does suffer from crime and had fewer options for protection.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    What is the point of anyone posting here if your attitude is YOU ARE LYING IF YOU DISAGREE WITH ME.

    It is your all purpose phony ace up your sleeve card that pretends to permit you to discount anything anyone actually says and merely use it as springboard #1,278 or so in going off on a rant and screaming about "gun banners" and "their real desires.

    How can any site have intelligent discussion between people with different views if you approach things from that dishonest perspective?

    1) stop shouting

    2) gun banners will never say what law is one too many or what infringement is one too much

    3) the only dishonesty comes from the gun banners who pretend their goal is less crime



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