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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Again....mentally ill people can be very very dangerous and kill large numbers of people.

    So....why not fix the actual problem...stopping the mentally ill from harming people? Let's see...how do you do that?
    Obviously keeping guns out of their hands should be the first priority, but I supposed in the crazy mentality of the gunners that would be in breach of their 2A rights !

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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    The fact that cannot be denied kills and obliterates your phony false equivalency:
    Cars are made as a means of transportation.
    Firearms are made as a weapon to shooting others.
    How does that change the body count?

    What's more important? Your personal fear and dislike of guns or the body count? Perhaps if you were actually concerned about deaths, you'd join MADD or be in DC lobbying Congress for more laws restricting who can drive and when and how.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Obviously keeping guns out of their hands should be the first priority, but I supposed in the crazy mentality of the gunners that would be in breach of their 2A rights !
    So the rights of the few are more important than the rights of the many? You punish all law-abiding citizens because of a few (terrible) incidents?

    That *might* make sense if you were trying to prevent *deaths* period and taking the same measures to protect citizens from car accidents. Dont see it tho. Because those deaths are just as terrible...just not all in one place where you can wring your hearts over it. Funny....maybe you dont feel they are as deserving of your sympathy? It's better they died as the result of car trauma, not gun trauma?
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    The point you are so desperate to miss is that people choose to put themselves AND their children in harm's way every day in cars, and risk death and injury at higher rates, than ever occur due to guns. Yet people would choose to *take away rights* to self defense and gun ownership in order to propagate irrational fear.

    If the fear was rational, they'd be changing their driving habits and frequency. But they kid themselves into believing cars are 'good,' necessary, even indispensable. That's not true. Cars are machines, not good or bad. Same with guns. All are subject to the people running them. And every single day I am more at risk from being killed or injured from a car...even if I'm not driving!...than I am from a gun.

    People dont care about 'deaths', they have been sold a packet of lives based on terrible and uncommon incidents. Instead of recognizing the wholesale carnage spread out across the country every week. Hyperbole? Yeah, just like the hysteria surrounding guns.

    If they cared about 'deaths,' as I wrote, they'd be changing their driving habits and frequency. But they are happy to take those risks....nothing but perceptions, not reality.
    You've played this card before so many times and it's been trumped so many times. If you won't read the responses then don't waste my time

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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    So far he is the only voice of moderation I've heard amongst the zealotry. You have an almost religious belief system over there that knows no compromise and cannot be reasoned with when it comes to the total idolatry of firearms.
    Just because you are suckered in by the emotional blackmail of 'classrooms full of dead kids' and cant see that those incidents are uncommon, like commercial plane crashes, yet unable to see that more deaths occur due to cars isnt our fault. Weak and biased minds are not something we wish to encourage in America.

    The irrationality of taking a Constitutional right away from millions of law-abiding citizens because of a few inflammatory incidents is not being bought into, fortunately, by the majority of Americans. You dont punish the good because of the bad acts of others.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    You've played this card before so many times and it's been trumped so many times. If you won't read the responses then don't waste my time
    More irrationality if you think it's been 'trumped.'

    I see you couldnt do so.
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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    So the rights of the few are more important than the rights of the many? You punish all law-abiding citizens because of a few (terrible) incidents?

    That *might* make sense if you were trying to prevent *deaths* period and taking the same measures to protect citizens from car accidents. Dont see it tho. Because those deaths are just as terrible...just not all in one place where you can wring your hearts over it. Funny....maybe you dont feel they are as deserving of your sympathy? It's better they died as the result of car trauma, not gun trauma?
    You are wasting my time again . We have car accidents too but almost no gun deaths. You have car accidents PLUS AN ADDITIONAL 30,000 gun deaths per annum. Why is that a good thing ?

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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    How does that change the body count?

    What's more important? Your personal fear and dislike of guns or the body count? Perhaps if you were actually concerned about deaths, you'd join MADD or be in DC lobbying Congress for more laws restricting who can drive and when and how.
    Body count? I have no idea what your point is?
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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    You are wasting my time again . We have car accidents too but almost no gun deaths. You have car accidents PLUS AN ADDITIONAL 30,000 gun deaths per annum. Why is that a good thing ?
    So....where are the efforts to reduce all the car deaths? Those could be reduced BY FAR by eliminating private car ownership or greatly restricting it.

    Why isnt that happening? (Thanks btw, you are making my point for me)

    Why are THOSE car-related deaths "acceptable" but the much rarer (even before banned) gun deaths?

    Emotion overcoming common sense is my Reader's Digest comment on that.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Body count? I have no idea what your point is?
    Yes you do.

    Body count from car accidents, body count from gun incidents.

    You wont answer it, lol, I knew that when I posted it but it's still there for people to read.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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