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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Hooray for you ! You got my point
    Your point is that people kill other people, and guns don't kill people? Perfect. Then what should we do about that...ban people, and that will stop murders?
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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    WOW!!!! Flogger called that one right on the nose!!!!!
    Yes, he is proving the point that you gun grabbers have no argument. Repeatedly. As are you.
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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Yes - and you are accurate. I like the lawnmowers comparison.

    Here in the States, there are people who are so extreme on the far right side of the gun issue that they feel some need to characterize anyone who does not share their almost religious like obsession as "anti-gun". For example, the most conservative US President in the last 80 years was Ronald Reagan. He was a great friend of the NRA and a strong supporter of the Second Amendment. But Reagan signed a law as governor and another as President which placed restrictions on guns so now he is lumped in with a category of contempt called GUN BANNERS. The idea being that there just might be one gun you do not want available but that makes you a GUN BANNER. And if somebody then jumps to the conclusion that the title means you want to ban ALL GUNS - so much the better to demonize your enemy.

    This has to stop.
    gun banners generally are not honest about their ultimate goals. They know the political price of coming out for a complete gun ban now. So they merely push for the next "reasonable" step without ever being honest about their real desires. But we can see if someone is a gun banner by their logic. If they call for laws that have no hope of actually impeding criminals but merely set the stage for an additional law, that is a good sign they are a gun banner. If they claim the government can ban pretty much any type of firearm, they are generally a gun banner. And when they refuse to say at what point a law is too oppressive or violates our rights, they are a gun banner



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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Its the fallacy of False Equivalency. It has not at all worked well for your side and has been exposed over and over again. And it has been confronted head on right here by others.
    It's worked fine, even if you dont want to recognize it. It has not been remotely exposed as innaccurate, that's false. THe fact that few restrictions have been placed on gun owners...altho the threat remains...proves Americans are not as concerned about "death" as anti-gun people would like us to believe.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Yes - and you are accurate. I like the lawnmowers comparison.

    Here in the States, there are people who are so extreme on the far right side of the gun issue that they feel some need to characterize anyone who does not share their almost religious like obsession as "anti-gun". For example, the most conservative US President in the last 80 years was Ronald Reagan. He was a great friend of the NRA and a strong supporter of the Second Amendment. But Reagan signed a law as governor and another as President which placed restrictions on guns so now he is lumped in with a category of contempt called GUN BANNERS. The idea being that there just might be one gun you do not want available but that makes you a GUN BANNER. And if somebody then jumps to the conclusion that the title means you want to ban ALL GUNS - so much the better to demonize your enemy.

    This has to stop.
    I thought it spoke volumes when after Sandy Hook the gun nuts rushed out to empty the shelves of AR 15's and similar style weaponry. This is exactly the opposite reaction to that you would see in any other developed country in the wake of such an avoidable tragedy. There are clearly some very deep seated psychological problems for many within US society given this sort of perverse response.

    Walmart Out Of Guns As Americans Race For Arms After Newtown

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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    I thought it spoke volumes when after Sandy Hook the gun nuts rushed out to empty the shelves of AR 15's and similar style weaponry. This is exactly the opposite reaction to that you would see in any other developed country in the wake of such an avoidable tragedy. There are clearly some very deep seated psychological problems for many within US society given this sort of perverse response.

    Walmart Out Of Guns As Americans Race For Arms After Newtown
    You'll let us know when we can 'avoid' the harm that the mentally ill do, wont you?
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Your point is that people kill other people, and guns don't kill people? Perfect. Then what should we do about that...ban people, and that will stop murders?
    I thought it might be too good to be true !

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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    I thought it spoke volumes when after Sandy Hook the gun nuts rushed out to empty the shelves of AR 15's and similar style weaponry. This is exactly the opposite reaction to that you would see in any other developed country in the wake of such an avoidable tragedy. There are clearly some very deep seated psychological problems for many within US society given this sort of perverse response.

    Walmart Out Of Guns As Americans Race For Arms After Newtown
    the real gun nuts were the assholes in office who suggested such guns be banned because some killer used a similar weapon to kill children in violation of capital murder laws.



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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    I thought it might be too good to be true !
    What, that a foreign gun grabber's opinion would make any sense to a smart American? You're right.
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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    I thought it spoke volumes when after Sandy Hook the gun nuts rushed out to empty the shelves of AR 15's and similar style weaponry. This is exactly the opposite reaction to that you would see in any other developed country in the wake of such an avoidable tragedy. There are clearly some very deep seated psychological problems for many within US society given this sort of perverse response.

    Walmart Out Of Guns As Americans Race For Arms After Newtown
    Yes, it was a "stupid" as people rushing out to stock up on food and water when there's a hurricane predicted. Another "sensible" statement from an anti-gun person...."prudence and preparation are stupid."
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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