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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    BS . Every one of your massacres has involved what would be termed a legally owned firearm.
    you apparently know little about the laws in the USA. possession of a firearm with the intent to commit a crime is illegal



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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

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    you apparently know little about the laws in the USA. possession of a firearm with the intent to commit a crime is illegal
    I lived there for two years. You are simply dodging now in order to defend your firearms.

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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    I lived there for two years. You are simply dodging now in order to defend your firearms.
    I don't need to defend my firearms. They are legal to own and the petulant complaints of foreigners is not going to change that



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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

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    I don't need to defend my firearms. They are legal to own and the petulant complaints of foreigners is not going to change that
    I'm sure yet another 30,000 US families will disagree with you by this time next year

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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    I'm sure yet another 30,000 of your families will disagree with you by this time next year
    many of them are suicides. what sort of punishment is going to deter a suicide?

    tell us why are you so afraid of Americans owning guns?



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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    many of them are suicides. what sort of punishment is going to deter a suicide?
    And many of them aren't. Why is making suicide more difficult to commit a bad thing ?

    tell us why are you so afraid of Americans owning guns?
    I'm not. I'm pointing out the consequences for your society

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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    NO. It matters and it matters completely. When a firearm is used to kill - it being used exactly for the purpose it was created in the first place. And the maker knows that and was aware of it and makes the product just the same.

    So please spare me the excuses and the really atrocious comparison to people driving cars. Cars were invented to transport people. They were NOT invented as weapons of death.
    please go sue a car maker because a drunk guy plowed into a crowd or some maniac ran a bunch of people over.
    after all the maker of the item is responsible for what people do with their products.

    you are wrong you just don't realize how faulty your logic is.

    it doesn't why cars were invented companies are responsible for what people do with their products remember that is your logic or at least core belief of the logic you are using.

    guns were invented for personal protection that was the core reason they were invented and many early guns couldn't shoot more than a few feet with any accuracy.

    again we are talking about your core logical belief here.

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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    You didn't answer my question. Auto deaths are almost entirely accidental (and hence unavoidable) and are something the US shares with other developed countries unlike its horrendous firearm stats. There is a big difference between accident and intent here
    yet they 100% more death caused by car wrecks and drunk drivers than gun shootings.

    guns have no intentions they are inanimate objects.

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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Yes indeed. The USSR had won that for us long before our military aid to her had made much impact and long before D day.
    The USSR staved off defeat totally on their own merits.

    Had there not been a D-day, or Lend Lease, however, the USSR would have been at great risk of stalemating with the Germans on the Eastern Front. A key factor would have been German policies towards the peoples of occupied Belarus, Ukraine and Russia and how willing the locals would have been to either fight the Soviets, or at least not actively oppose the German occupation.

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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    And many of them aren't. Why is making suicide more difficult to commit a bad thing ?



    I'm not. I'm pointing out the consequences for your society
    we understand the consequences of freedom. 99% of all gun owners use them responsibly and for proper purposes. the benefits far outweigh the costs and most of the costs would remain even if the wet dreams of gun fearers came true



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