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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother[W:52]

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    He was mentally handicapped and could not take care of himself so she was is guardian whether she petitioned the courts for it or not. There was no way she should have had that weapon where he could get it. That is certainly obvious. We need gun purchasers to sign a document that says guns should not be brought into a home with a mentally unstable occupant and they will be liable if they do.
    Obviously, given his heinous actions, Adam Lanza was mentally ill. But you are practicing psychiatry without a license and sitting in judgment. None of Lanza's issues--autism, OCD, and anxiety--are associated with violence, and nobody realized that he was capable of what he ultimately did.

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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
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    30 years ago this night, I was mugged unsuccessfully by two "urban utes" They were unsuccessful because I had a loaded legally carried 9mm S&W auto and when it all was over, I had a broken nose, one mugger had a 1150 FPS colonoscopy and the other one, a seriously crap stained pair of shorts and blue jeans. I Kept my mouth shut on the advice of counsel and the Chief of Police who was happy I had almost wasted a scum bag that a bleeding heart judge had seen fit to release after this same scumbag had put a guard into a hospital by hitting him over the head during a B&E at a local power plant. but on the news, some aging 60's granola bar hippy chick whined that a "rich white" guy should not shoot a "poor black boy" who merely was looking for some money that an unjust society had deprived blacks of. My attorney wryly noted how she would feel if the same "poor black boy" assaulted her looking for some sex with a white woman that a racist society labeled "taboo". Needless to say, counsel's question did not elicit a cognizable answer but that is the sort of idiocy we get from the anti self defense lefties.



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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the first ones yes.
    So you finally admit it. Firearms were invented to kill.

    When somebody uses a firearm to shoot somebody else - or kills them shooting them - they are using the weapons for the exact purpose firearms were invented.

    So tell me again why we should give special protections to manufacturers or dealers who make or sell a product that is used as intended to be used?

    Case closed.
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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    30 years ago this night, I was mugged unsuccessfully by two "urban utes" They were unsuccessful because I had a loaded legally carried 9mm S&W auto and when it all was over, I had a broken nose, one mugger had a 1150 FPS colonoscopy and the other one, a seriously crap stained pair of shorts and blue jeans. I Kept my mouth shut on the advice of counsel and the Chief of Police who was happy I had almost wasted a scum bag that a bleeding heart judge had seen fit to release after this same scumbag had put a guard into a hospital by hitting him over the head during a B&E at a local power plant. but on the news, some aging 60's granola bar hippy chick whined that a "rich white" guy should not shoot a "poor black boy" who merely was looking for some money that an unjust society had deprived blacks of. My attorney wryly noted how she would feel if the same "poor black boy" assaulted her looking for some sex with a white woman that a racist society labeled "taboo". Needless to say, counsel's question did not elicit a cognizable answer but that is the sort of idiocy we get from the anti self defense lefties.


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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    So you finally admit it. Firearms were invented to kill.

    When somebody uses a firearm to shoot somebody else - or kills them shooting them - they are using the weapons for the exact purpose firearms were invented.

    So tell me again why we should give special protections to manufacturers or dealers who make or sell a product that is used as intended to be used?

    Case closed.
    so were knives, and clubs. Have you a point?

    your question is silly. why should a gun maker be sued when someone uses the product illegally.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    that's where I got it. You cannot go to law school without seeing some of MY COUSIN VINNY in at least a few classes


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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so were knives, and clubs. Have you a point?

    your question is silly. why should a gun maker be sued when someone uses the product illegally.
    I made my point and you admitted the truth of my point.

    Firearms were invented to kill.

    When somebody uses a firearm to shoot somebody else - or kills them shooting them - they are using the weapons for the exact purpose firearms were invented.

    So tell me again why we should give special protections to manufacturers or dealers who make or sell a product that is used as intended to be used?

    Case closed.
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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I made my point and you admitted the truth of my point.

    Firearms were invented to kill.

    When somebody uses a firearm to shoot somebody else - or kills them shooting them - they are using the weapons for the exact purpose firearms were invented.

    So tell me again why we should give special protections to manufacturers or dealers who make or sell a product that is used as intended to be used?

    Case closed.
    there was no truth in your point and you ran away from the real issue.

    you are intentionally ignoring the legal use of a weapon and mixing it with illegal use

    so your argument is essentially specious -at best.



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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    30 years ago this night, I was mugged unsuccessfully by two "urban utes" They were unsuccessful because I had a loaded legally carried 9mm S&W auto and when it all was over, I had a broken nose, one mugger had a 1150 FPS colonoscopy and the other one, a seriously crap stained pair of shorts and blue jeans. I Kept my mouth shut on the advice of counsel and the Chief of Police who was happy I had almost wasted a scum bag that a bleeding heart judge had seen fit to release after this same scumbag had put a guard into a hospital by hitting him over the head during a B&E at a local power plant. but on the news, some aging 60's granola bar hippy chick whined that a "rich white" guy should not shoot a "poor black boy" who merely was looking for some money that an unjust society had deprived blacks of. My attorney wryly noted how she would feel if the same "poor black boy" assaulted her looking for some sex with a white woman that a racist society labeled "taboo". Needless to say, counsel's question did not elicit a cognizable answer but that is the sort of idiocy we get from the anti self defense lefties.
    Wow!!!!
    Thirty years ago, I wasn't interested in learning to use a gun. I didn't like them and felt uncomfortable even having them around. But one night while we were sleeping our house was broken into and they stole some things including my purse. Hubby's job often called him out of town. He insisted I learn to shoot a gun because he worried when I was home alone. He first started with taking me skeet shooting with a Winchester rifle. After a day of that I had such a bruised shoulder/chest I had to see a doctor. Obviously I wasn't doing things correctly. After learning to use the rifle then he took me to the gun range for target practice. Do you remember those targets of the full person with 4 chambers of the heart? That's what he would bring along for me to practice. He would bring a couple of handguns and tell me to aim at the heart. I'd hit a foot, arm, and very seldom came close to the heart. I sucked. But he could shoot off 4 rounds and hit all 4 chambers and when he wanted to show off would use playing cards for targets. Anyway, I learned to load and shoot a gun and would use it without second guessing if I needed to.

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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Wow!!!!
    Thirty years ago, I wasn't interested in learning to use a gun. I didn't like them and felt uncomfortable even having them around. But one night while we were sleeping our house was broken into and they stole some things including my purse. Hubby's job often called him out of town. He insisted I learn to shoot a gun because he worried when I was home alone. He first started with taking me skeet shooting with a Winchester rifle. After a day of that I had such a bruised shoulder/chest I had to see a doctor. Obviously I wasn't doing things correctly. After learning to use the rifle then he took me to the gun range for target practice. Do you remember those targets of the full person with 4 chambers of the heart? That's what he would bring along for me to practice. He would bring a couple of handguns and tell me to aim at the heart. I'd hit a foot, arm, and very seldom came close to the heart. I sucked. But he could shoot off 4 rounds and hit all 4 chambers and when he wanted to show off would use playing cards for targets. Anyway, I learned to load and shoot a gun and would use it without second guessing if I needed to.


    I think that might have been a Winchester shot gun, if you mean skeet as in 6" round black and white disks flying through the air.
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