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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Well given that sort of response you get the society you deserve as is reflected in your murder stats, nearly three quarters of which involve a firearm. But hey ,so what as long as your hobby is protected
    Apparently that works both ways since the violent crime rate in England is MUCH higher than it is in the US.

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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Firearms were created to kill people and other living things.
    Firearms do not have self awareness. They are inanimate objects. Murder or killing is the intent of whomever uses them for that purpose. Many simply do target shooting. Others buy them for home defense and go their entire lifetimes never killing anyone. Blame the person, not the object. People have been murdered with knives, hammers, rocks, fists, and even fertilizer.

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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    Apparently that works both ways since the violent crime rate in England is MUCH higher than it is in the US.
    No, it really isn't. The difference is the definition of a crime of violence. In the UK a violent crime has a much, much wider definition than in the US. It includes virtually all crimes against the person.
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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Why did you stop there? Lets finish that thought for you..........Firearms were designed to project a bullet at people or other targets.
    So what is your problem? I have been a gun owner most of my adult life, yet I have never pointed one at another human being, much less shot anyone. I have killed an occasional duck, quail, or pheasant, but then someone kills the poultry and beef you likely eat.

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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    No, it really isn't. The difference is the definition of a crime of violence. In the UK a violent crime has a much, much wider definition than in the US. It includes virtually all crimes against the person.
    The stats I've seen show that overall violent crime is much higher in all of Europe than in the US. How those stats are determined I do not know but every source I have seen uses the same(or very similar) statistics.

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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    The difference between an accidental death by car and an intentional (and hence avoidable) one by firearm is one gun advocates desperately try to blur in order to keep their lethal hobby safe from the legislators
    In the US, there is another hobby more dangerous. It's called driving an automobile. It has resulted in more American deaths then by guns.

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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    Apparently that works both ways since the violent crime rate in England is MUCH higher than it is in the US.
    Thanks to your guns your murder rate is five times ours and theres no way to directly compare other crimes due to different methodologies in collation

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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    In the US, there is another hobby more dangerous. It's called driving an automobile. It has resulted in more American deaths then by guns.
    How many people are murdered by car ?

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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Firearms do not have self awareness. They are inanimate objects.
    So is any weapon

    Murder or killing is the intent of whomever uses them for that
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    Guns make murder far too easy

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    Re: Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    I thought it was a pretty tasteless, whiny claim.
    you are right-the lawsuits are whiny claims



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