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Lawyers say Canadian-born Cruz eligible to run for president

If Ted Cruz has no shot of winning, then this country is in worse shape than I thought.[/QUOTE]



Cruz has zero chance of being elected president of the USA. Wait and see.
 
That seemed to be what you were saying to me. Here, just tell me this. In Excons mind, was John McCain, Barak Obama and Ted Cruz all three eligible for the presidency?

What I said was already clear.
All you had to do was read what was in this thread.
Post #s, 9, 19, 23. I am sure there are more, but it should be pretty evident what I said.


Which should have been evident when I replied to your post in post #36. When I replied that no "there you don't have it" that would mean the post to which you were referring was wrong. Which I had corrected them one post before replying to you in post #35.
Like I said, all you had to do was read what was in this thread. :shrug:
 
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Because Obama is black. That is the irony of this whole thing....the tea baggers have no problem with Cruz because he is a white guy. What complete hypocrites they are.

That's not in the OP source, where do you get this stuff? Please produce it.
 
So what is he then?

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Not quite the same; both McCain's parents were U.S. citizens. Only one of Cruz' - his mother - is/was (not sure if she's still alive). Of course, as I've said before, current INA law takes into account at least one parent born on U.S. soil to confer U.S. citizenship unto the child.

You can throw in the fact that his Dad [who is now a citizen] was working for an American company in Canada.
 
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What I said was already clear.
All you had to do was read what was in this thread.
Post #s, 9, 19, 23. I am sure there are more, but it should be pretty evident what I said.


Which should have been evident when I replied to your post in post #36. When I replied that no "there you don't have it" that would mean the post to which you were referring was wrong. Which I had corrected them one post before replying to you in post #35.
Like I said, all you had to do was read what was in this thread. :shrug:

That's as confusing as anything. Are those three men eligible to be president or not, just give me a yes, or a no! Please.
 
That's as confusing as anything. Are those three men eligible to be president or not, just give me a yes, or a no! Please.
Just give me ... nothing.
It was posted where you could find the answers.
Your asking after receiving the reply you did in post #36 is astonishing.
 
She did say kenya is his home country.... http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...3IDQCw&usg=AFQjCNHl1EPFwR0WfYKTaB6EhJlKyKGDGA

I don't understand why Obamatrons still get mad when this is refrenced since it comes from the Obamas themselves. What's Cruz's middle name?

Immigrants to America have long referred to their country of origin as their home country. As those immigrants achieve citizenship here, and have children, and grandchildren here, they all become natural born citizens. It doesn't matter where Obama's father came from, Obama was a natural born citizen. Did Ted Cruz's parents immigrate to the US, was Ted Born here? If he was then he has the same right to become president as Obama did.
 
No Montecresto, there you don't have it.
She provided you faulty information.
Congress realized their error and corrected the mistake and the language was changed a short five years later in 1795 to just "citizen".

How does this answer my question to Excon? Does Excon believe that John McCain, Barak Obama and Ted Cruz are eligible to be president of the United States, or not? Just say yes or no!
 
Nobody cared about where Barack Obama was born until the Hillary Clinton supporters said he wasn't born in this country.

The issue of where Ted Cruz was born was only ever important to the people who oppose the idea of Ted Cruz being elected President.
 
It's a very stupid observation. "African Americans" almost all have white blood from their abuse when they were slaves. Few have only African blood.

But the ignorant like to bring it up as if it's relevant. Blacks in this country have had little recourse but to identify with their visible attribute, almost as a defense mechanism...since the minute racist whites saw them THEY immediately declared them 'black', no matter how dark or light.

I find that and the old 'one drop' laws particularly offensive. Traces back to a MASH episode during my childhood I think, when they discussed black people dying because they werent admitted to 'white only' hospitals and were, in that case, not given blood transfusions to save their lives.

Hence the old expression, a "compliment"....you are 'passin', meaning you could pass for white. It always made me sick to my stomach to hear it and read it after that as a kid...and adult.

/rant

Most excellent rant. The "one drop" was a key point of the plot of the musical Showboat too.

One just has to look at how Pres. Obama is treated to know he is considered black, not white.

Heck, the new show on Comedy Central - hosted by Larry Wilmore - I look at him; and he strongly identifies as black; and I personally think he could "pass" as white. But he hasn't tried. And good for him.
 
About as much as I believe "african" americans are actually born in africa. What does Obama's birth place have to do with anything? I'm scottish/german and I wasn't born in scotland or germany. Please stop trying to derail the thread. We have a kenyan in office so it's no big deal if we elect a canadian. A canadian would actually be the better choice since 90% of the canadian population lives within 100 miles of the US border anyway and are likely more atune to US politics.

He isn't Kenyan, so your point is totally off-target.
 
That's as confusing as anything. Are those three men eligible to be president or not, just give me a yes, or a no! Please.

Best I can tell, Excon thinks Cruz and McCain aren't natural-born citizens, therefore are not eligible, while Pres. Obama is natural-born, so is.

He cares about what piece of dirt was under the hospital, not who their parents were.
 
If Ted Cruz has no shot of winning, then this country is in worse shape than I thought.[/QUOTE]



Cruz has zero chance of being elected president of the USA. Wait and see.

And why is that? What is your information on it? Obama had about the same shot, and he even got reelected after proving that he was incompetent. At least Cruz has a brain.
 
Nobody cared about where Barack Obama was born until the Hillary Clinton supporters said he wasn't born in this country.

The issue of where Ted Cruz was born was only ever important to the people who oppose the idea of Ted Cruz being elected President.

False. Nobody knew. Anyway, if it's constitutionally legal for Cruz to be president of the United States, then I don't understand why we're talking about this. If it's not constitutionally legal for Cruz to be president, then why are we talking about this?
 
Best I can tell, Excon thinks Cruz and McCain aren't natural-born citizens, therefore are not eligible, while Pres. Obama is natural-born, so is.

He cares about what piece of dirt was under the hospital, not who their parents were.

Thank you.
 
That isn't what the Constitution says. The Constitution requires one be a Naturally born citizen.
That phase has a specific meaning requiring birth to a citizen parent, on US soil, and not being born owing allegiance to another country.
That meaning hasn't changed.

Unfortunately the Supreme Court has never heard the issue so folks like Obama and possibly Cruz can get away with it.

Why should my father not be eligible to President simply because he was born in another country because my grandfather was stationed there? That is stupid. People are a natural born citizen of this country if their parents are citizens. The only paperwork required is a little extra to show that yes they are citizens despite their birth certificate being from another country.
 
False. Nobody knew. Anyway, if it's constitutionally legal for Cruz to be president of the United States, then I don't understand why we're talking about this. If it's not constitutionally legal for Cruz to be president, then why are we talking about this?

Nobody cared that he was born in Canada. Just like no rational people cared about where Obama was born, until the Hillary people brought it up.

We're talking about it because the man is likely going to declare his candidacy this year. We aren't talking about anyone else who wasn't born in this country because there isn't anyone else who is potentially running for POTUS who wasn't born in this country. We're talking about it for the same reason we've been talking about it for the last few years. We're talking about it now because the Bush and Obama lawyers published their opinions in the Harvard Law Review and it made the media and morphed into a thread on DP.
 
Nobody cared that he was born in Canada. Just like no rational people cared about where Obama was born, until the Hillary people brought it up.

We're talking about it because the man is likely going to declare his candidacy this year. We aren't talking about anyone else who wasn't born in this country because there isn't anyone else who is potentially running for POTUS who wasn't born in this country. We're talking about it for the same reason we've been talking about it for the last few years. We're talking about it now because the Bush and Obama lawyers published their opinions in the Harvard Law Review and it made the media and morphed into a thread on DP.

I hope you don't think that I'm defending Hillary doing that! Anyway, if it's unconstitutional for a person born physically outside of the United States to become president, then how would it be un rational to care about it? If it's legal, where's the grip. If it's not legal, where's the defence?
 
I hope you don't think that I'm defending Hillary doing that! Anyway, if it's unconstitutional for a person born physically outside of the United States to become president, then how would it be un rational to care about it? If it's legal, where's the grip. If it's not legal, where's the defence?

John McCain was allowed to run for POTUS. The issue of a child of an American citizen being banned from running for POTUS was settled in 2008, if it was even a issue.

Again, we're only talking about it now because these 2 former high ranking government attorneys voiced their opinions in the Harvard Law Review. Cruz's mother's citizenship hasn't been in question for a few years, since he provided proof that she was a citizen born in Delaware. Him being born in Canada still qualifies him as a natural born citizen. His parents weren't illegal immigrants, and he wasn't born in Canada the child of Canadian citizens.

Nobody who made a difference cared, but this makes for good political theater anyway.
 
Immigrants to America have long referred to their country of origin as their home country. As those immigrants achieve citizenship here, and have children, and grandchildren here, they all become natural born citizens. It doesn't matter where Obama's father came from, Obama was a natural born citizen. Did Ted Cruz's parents immigrate to the US, was Ted Born here? If he was then he has the same right to become president as Obama did.
And so there's nothing wrong with referring Cruz as a canadian just as there's nothing wrong with referring to Obama as a kenyan. That's where these people come from, that's their family lineage.
 
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