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    Re: Lawyers say Canadian-born Cruz eligible to run for president

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    IMO, he's more concerned with the constitutionality of rulings that go against the will of the state's people.
    this foreigner wouldn't know the constitution if he broke into the national archives so he could add his signature and add to his 'credentials' - "founding father"

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    Re: Lawyers say Canadian-born Cruz eligible to run for president

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    He also gave up his Canadian citizenship.
    as he will renounce his american citizenship as president right as he's sneaking across the russian border to trade our nuclear launch codes

    obviously someone like this who spits on his homeland isn't to be trusted

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    Re: Lawyers say Canadian-born Cruz eligible to run for president

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    IMO, he's more concerned with the constitutionality of rulings that go against the will of the state's people.
    Anything supporting the Constitution is the definition of a "bastard" to the left, except when it suits them of course.
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    Re: Lawyers say Canadian-born Cruz eligible to run for president

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    You were being evasive and your posts were long and boring when you could have just answered the questions. I skipped over your posts. Life is too short.
    I'm with you here. My eyes glazed over trying to read his replies on page 22. Clearly, he prides himself on being the forums' foremost legal authority on America birth rights. If that's what give him his hardcore jollies, so be it.

    Regardless of the size of his ego, he and I can agree on one thing: Ted Cruz doesn't meet the constitutional eligibility requirement to be POTUS which was the point of this thread. Anything else he has to say regarding the subtopics that have sprung up in the thread...let's just say he's entitled to his opinion. Nonetheless, I'm more than willing to let the Supreme Court or Congress define who is and is not a natural-born U.S. citizen should either body ever formally take up the issue.
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    Re: Lawyers say Canadian-born Cruz eligible to run for president

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I'm with you here. My eyes glazed over trying to read his replies on page 22. Clearly, he prides himself on being the forums' foremost legal authority on America birth rights. If that's what give him his hardcore jollies, so be it.

    Regardless of the size of his ego, he and I can agree on one thing: Ted Cruz doesn't meet the constitutional eligibility requirement to be POTUS which was the point of this thread. Anything else he has to say regarding the subtopics that have sprung up in the thread...let's just say he's entitled to his opinion. Nonetheless, I'm more than willing to let the Supreme Court or Congress define who is and is not a natural-born U.S. citizen should either body ever formally take up the issue.
    I liked your post, although I disagree with you on Cruz's eligibility.... just wanted to mention that my like was for the rest of it.

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    Re: Lawyers say Canadian-born Cruz eligible to run for president

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    I liked your post, although I disagree with you on Cruz's eligibility.... just wanted to mention that my like was for the rest of it.
    Here's an article from Yahoo.com that at least tried to shed some light on the "natural-born" citizen argument and Sen. Cruz eligibility. I'm still of the opinion that where he was born remains the disqualifying factor for his "natural-born" citizen status, but there's something else that occurred to me: Were Ted Cruz' parents married at the time of his birth? If not, then he'd likely have to be found eligible under the same "born abroad/born out of wedlock" INA requirements for which Pres. Obama's mother was so heavily scrutinized. Per current INA, Section 1401(g), "Born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent":

    a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States, or periods of employment with the United States Government or with an international organization as that term is defined in section 288 of title 22 by such citizen parent, or any periods during which such citizen parent is physically present abroad as the dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person.
    And Secton 1409(c), "Born out of wedlock":

    Notwithstanding the provision of subsection (a) of this section, a person born, after December 23, 1952, outside the United States and out of wedlock shall be held to have acquired at birth the nationality status of his mother, if the mother had the nationality of the United States at the time of such personís birth, and if the mother had previously been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year.
    So, just to clarify the matter, does anyone know if his parents were, in fact, married at the time of his birth OR if his mother lived in the U.S. for at least 5-years prior to his birth? I'd hate to see this country go through the same birther crap all over again.
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    Re: Lawyers say Canadian-born Cruz eligible to run for president

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post


    So, just to clarify the matter, does anyone know if his parents were, in fact, married at the time of his birth OR if his mother lived in the U.S. for at least 5-years prior to his birth? I'd hate to see this country go through the same birther crap all over again.
    Yes, they were married; his mother was born and raised in Delaware, went to college in Houston and later worked in Houston, so she had definitely lived in the US for more than 5 years.

    (note, yes, I got my data from wikipedia, but I have no reason to think it is incorrect based on other sites I have read about Cruz' life. Ted Cruz - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Re: Lawyers say Canadian-born Cruz eligible to run for president

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    Yes, they were married; his mother was born and raised in Delaware, went to college in Houston and later worked in Houston, so she had definitely lived in the US for more than 5 years.

    (note, yes, I got my data from wikipedia, but I have no reason to think it is incorrect based on other sites I have read about Cruz' life. Ted Cruz - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Yup, his mother was born and raised in Delaware and went to I believe Rice University, and she graduated in the 1950s. Ted was born in 1970. His mother was a US citizen.

    His father came here on a student Visa in the late 1950s. Not sure exactly when he married Mrs. Cruz but his Visa ran out (it was a 4 year Visa) and I think he married her at around that time (early 1960s) when he got his green card.

    There are a lot of reasons to not like Cruz. This isn't one of them.
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    Re: Lawyers say Canadian-born Cruz eligible to run for president

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Yup, his mother was born and raised in Delaware and went to I believe Rice University, and she graduated in the 1950s. Ted was born in 1970. His mother was a US citizen.

    His father came here on a student Visa in the late 1950s. Not sure exactly when he married Mrs. Cruz but his Visa ran out (it was a 4 year Visa) and I think he married her at around that time (early 1960s) when he got his green card.

    There are a lot of reasons to not like Cruz. This isn't one of them.

    I agree. I hope no one makes any more of an issue about it.

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    Re: Lawyers say Canadian-born Cruz eligible to run for president

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    Yes, they were married; his mother was born and raised in Delaware, went to college in Houston and later worked in Houston, so she had definitely lived in the US for more than 5 years.

    (note, yes, I got my data from wikipedia, but I have no reason to think it is incorrect based on other sites I have read about Cruz' life. Ted Cruz - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    )
    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Yup, his mother was born and raised in Delaware and went to I believe Rice University, and she graduated in the 1950s. Ted was born in 1970. His mother was a US citizen.

    His father came here on a student Visa in the late 1950s. Not sure exactly when he married Mrs. Cruz but his Visa ran out (it was a 4 year Visa) and I think he married her at around that time (early 1960s) when he got his green card.

    There are a lot of reasons to not like Cruz. This isn't one of them.
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