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    Re: Lawyers say Canadian-born Cruz eligible to run for president

    Quote Originally Posted by chad1389 View Post
    Lawyers say Canadian-born Cruz eligible to run for president | Fox News

    "While questions about Canadian-born Sen. Ted Cruz’s eligibility to be president haven’t drawn much attention, two former Justice Department lawyers have weighed in with a bipartisan verdict: Cruz, they say, is eligible to run for the White House. Neal Katyal, acting solicitor general in the Obama administration, and Paul Clemente, solicitor general in President George W. Bush’s administration, got out in front of the issue in a Harvard Law Review article. “There is no question that Senator Cruz has been a citizen from birth and is thus a ‘natural born Citizen’ within the meaning of the Constitution,” they wrote."

    "The law review article, “On the Meaning of ‘Natural Born Citizen”, asserts that the interpretation of the term was settled in Cruz’s favor as early as the 1700’s. The lawyers wrote that the Supreme Court has long used British common law and enactments of the First Congress for guidance on defining a “natural born citizen.” “Both confirm that the original meaning of the phrase ‘natural born Citizen’ includes persons born abroad who are citizens from birth based on the citizenship of a parent,” they wrote. They concluded someone like Cruz had “no need to go through naturalization proceedings,” making him eligible. Cruz is still weighing a presidential run.

    "Last month, Cruz addressed the citizenship issue during a question-and-answer session with moderator Sean Hannity, of Fox News, at the Conservative Political Action Conference. “I was born in Calgary. My mother was an American citizen by birth,” Cruz said. “Under federal law, that made me an American citizen by birth. The Constitution requires that you be a natural-born citizen.”


    Why was Obama given so much flack about this very thing? His mother was natural born as well. I'm not really understanding this. IMO, He wasn't born here naturally, he should not be allowed to run. Where his mom was born really shouldn't count. Where he was should.
    Let him run... he has no shot a winning, so he will spend tons of money and provide comic relief during the campaign. He does a great Dr. Suess.

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    Hillary is probably too busy right now trying to climb out of this hole she dug for herself to worry about Ted Cruz.
    I don't think anyone worries much about Ted Cruz.

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    Re: Lawyers say Canadian-born Cruz eligible to run for president

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    Let him run... he has no shot a winning, so he will spend tons of money and provide comic relief during the campaign. He does a great Dr. Suess.
    If Ted Cruz has no shot of winning, then this country is in worse shape than I thought.
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    Re: Lawyers say Canadian-born Cruz eligible to run for president

    The law is clear: one has to be born within US territory to be eligible for POTUS. Anyway I doubt Cruz would win if he ran so its a moot point.

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    Re: Lawyers say Canadian-born Cruz eligible to run for president

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    The law is clear: one has to be born within US territory to be eligible for POTUS. Anyway I doubt Cruz would win if he ran so its a moot point.
    Totally true. Wasn't John McCain born in panama, or there a bouts?
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    Re: Lawyers say Canadian-born Cruz eligible to run for president

    He'll never be president, so it doesn't matter.

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    Re: Lawyers say Canadian-born Cruz eligible to run for president

    Travelling in the modern world isn't like travelling in the 1780s. Today, one could be born during a weeklong trip and never be out of the country again. I think that if one is born a citizen, that should be enough. The intention of ensuring that the president is indicative of American culture and values and doesn't have allegiance to another country is valid, but requiring someone to physically be born in the United States (does that include territories?) is not necessary to achieve that intent. I see no reason to bar Cruz from running. I see even less reason to take him seriously as a candidate, however, and every reason not to vote for him.
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    Re: Lawyers say Canadian-born Cruz eligible to run for president

    Quote Originally Posted by chad1389 View Post
    Lawyers say Canadian-born Cruz eligible to run for president | Fox News

    "While questions about Canadian-born Sen. Ted Cruz’s eligibility to be president haven’t drawn much attention, two former Justice Department lawyers have weighed in with a bipartisan verdict: Cruz, they say, is eligible to run for the White House. Neal Katyal, acting solicitor general in the Obama administration, and Paul Clemente, solicitor general in President George W. Bush’s administration, got out in front of the issue in a Harvard Law Review article. “There is no question that Senator Cruz has been a citizen from birth and is thus a ‘natural born Citizen’ within the meaning of the Constitution,” they wrote."

    "The law review article, “On the Meaning of ‘Natural Born Citizen”, asserts that the interpretation of the term was settled in Cruz’s favor as early as the 1700’s. The lawyers wrote that the Supreme Court has long used British common law and enactments of the First Congress for guidance on defining a “natural born citizen.” “Both confirm that the original meaning of the phrase ‘natural born Citizen’ includes persons born abroad who are citizens from birth based on the citizenship of a parent,” they wrote. They concluded someone like Cruz had “no need to go through naturalization proceedings,” making him eligible. Cruz is still weighing a presidential run.

    "Last month, Cruz addressed the citizenship issue during a question-and-answer session with moderator Sean Hannity, of Fox News, at the Conservative Political Action Conference. “I was born in Calgary. My mother was an American citizen by birth,” Cruz said. “Under federal law, that made me an American citizen by birth. The Constitution requires that you be a natural-born citizen.”


    Why was Obama given so much flack about this very thing? His mother was natural born as well. I'm not really understanding this. IMO, He wasn't born here naturally, he should not be allowed to run. Where his mom was born really shouldn't count. Where he was should.
    It will be telling if those that claim Obama isn't a citizen will buy this about Cruz. I expect they will. However it will once again expose them as racists since whether born in Kenya or Hawaii, Obama's mother was surely an American citizen.
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    Re: Lawyers say Canadian-born Cruz eligible to run for president

    Quote Originally Posted by chad1389 View Post
    Lawyers say Canadian-born Cruz eligible to run for president | Fox News

    Why was Obama given so much flack about this very thing? His mother was natural born as well. I'm not really understanding this. IMO, He wasn't born here naturally, he should not be allowed to run. Where his mom was born really shouldn't count. Where he was should.

    Because Obama is black. That is the irony of this whole thing....the tea baggers have no problem with Cruz because he is a white guy. What complete hypocrites they are.

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    Re: Lawyers say Canadian-born Cruz eligible to run for president

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    It will be telling if those that claim Obama isn't a citizen will buy this about Cruz. I expect they will. However it will once again expose them as racists since whether born in Kenya or Hawaii, Obama's mother was surely an American citizen.
    Which doesn't matter to him not being a Natural born citizen as required.
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    Re: Lawyers say Canadian-born Cruz eligible to run for president

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    If Ted Cruz has no shot of winning, then this country is in worse shape than I thought.
    Its actually the other way around. If an idiot like Ted Cruz even stood a chance in hell of winning....this country would be in really really bad shape. Fortunately.....America is not that bat ass crazy

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