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    Re: Lawyers say Canadian-born Cruz eligible to run for president

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Why should my father not be eligible to President simply because he was born in another country because my grandfather was stationed there? That is stupid. People are a natural born citizen of this country if their parents are citizens. The only paperwork required is a little extra to show that yes they are citizens despite their birth certificate being from another country.
    No, that isn't all that is required.
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    Re: Lawyers say Canadian-born Cruz eligible to run for president

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    How does this answer my question to Excon? Does Excon believe that John McCain, Barak Obama and Ted Cruz are eligible to be president of the United States, or not? Just say yes or no!
    You know what she said. You quoted it. I pointed out that she was wrong and that the actual language was changed.
    If what she said is wrong, and it was pointed out why, what exactly do you think that means?

    For further clarification if you still do not get it, read the answer I provided to her just prior to the one to you.
    And then read the other posts I pointed out to you.
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    Re: Lawyers say Canadian-born Cruz eligible to run for president

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    No, that isn't all that is required.
    Yes it is. I had to get it for my security clearance background check. It was one extra document with a number on it that I had to provide the Navy.
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    Re: Lawyers say Canadian-born Cruz eligible to run for president

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Yes it is. I had to get it for my security clearance background check. It was one extra document with a number on it that I had to provide the Navy.

    No. That does not make one a natural born citizen as required for the President.
    If you do not understand the argument, don't engage.
    Citizen vs natural born Citizen. The two are different
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    Re: Lawyers say Canadian-born Cruz eligible to run for president

    Quote Originally Posted by chad1389 View Post
    Why was Obama given so much flack about this very thing? His mother was natural born as well. I'm not really understanding this. IMO, He wasn't born here naturally, he should not be allowed to run. Where his mom was born really shouldn't count. Where he was should.

    The law:

    "Birth Abroad to One Citizen and One Alien Parent in Wedlock

    A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) of the INA provided the U.S. citizen parent was physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child's birth. (For birth on or after November 14, 1986, a period of five years physical presence, two after the age of fourteen, is required. For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen, is required for physical presence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.) The U.S. citizen parent must be the genetic or the gestational parent and the legal parent of the child under local law at the time and place of the child’s birth to transmit U.S. citizenship."
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    So, since Obama's mother was 18 at the time of his birth, if he was born abroad it would be impossible for her to meet the legal requirements to confer citizenship.
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    Re: Lawyers say Canadian-born Cruz eligible to run for president

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    Best I can tell, Excon thinks Cruz and McCain aren't natural-born citizens, therefore are not eligible, while Pres. Obama is natural-born, so is.

    He cares about what piece of dirt was under the hospital, not who their parents were.
    Stop making absurd comments. You clearly do not fully understand what you have been told.

    I care what the Constitution and the Law says, where as you obviously do not.


    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Thank you.
    She got that partial wrong as well.
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    Re: Lawyers say Canadian-born Cruz eligible to run for president

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post

    No. That does not make one a natural born citizen as required for the President.
    If you do not understand the argument, don't engage.
    Citizen vs natural born Citizen. The two are different
    Why should they be? If you were simply born "on the wrong soil" that is a stupid reason to deny a person the right to be President of the US, especially when you would still be considered a US citizen from the moment of your birth.
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    Re: Lawyers say Canadian-born Cruz eligible to run for president

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    You know what she said. You quoted it. I pointed out that she was wrong and that the actual language was changed.
    If what she said is wrong, and it was pointed out why, what exactly do you think that means?

    For further clarification if you still do not get it, read the answer I provided to her just prior to the one to you.
    And then read the other posts I pointed out to you.
    I think another poster clarified your position for me, and now I understand. Barak Obama is eligible, and Cruz and McCain are not.
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    Re: Lawyers say Canadian-born Cruz eligible to run for president

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    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post

    And why is that? What is your information on it? Obama had about the same shot, and he even got reelected after proving that he was incompetent. At least Cruz has a brain.


    Cruz also has a mouth, and that mouth will keep him out of the White House.




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    Re: Lawyers say Canadian-born Cruz eligible to run for president

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Why should my father not be eligible to President simply because he was born in another country because my grandfather was stationed there? That is stupid. People are a natural born citizen of this country if their parents are citizens. The only paperwork required is a little extra to show that yes they are citizens despite their birth certificate being from another country.
    I'd agree. Excon doesn't. Guess it's up to the lawyers

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