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    Re: Lawyers say Canadian-born Cruz eligible to run for president

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    §§ 215, 216 & 217: “Children born overseas to parents who are foreigners in that country do not become natural born citizens of that country, rather they are citizens of the country to which their parents owe allegiance.”[/B][/FONT][/COLOR][/INDENT]
    this sounds like Cruz and McCain. Their parents - or mother, in Cruz' case - owed allegiance to the US.

    And by the way - things have changed since 1775.

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    Re: Lawyers say Canadian-born Cruz eligible to run for president

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    At least he is a person that defends our personal freedoms and the Constitution. I wonder if Obama has ever said anything supporting individual freedoms.
    You mean like our right to abortion or our right to same-sex marriage?

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    Re: Lawyers say Canadian-born Cruz eligible to run for president

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    No they are not. They are not natural born Citizens.
    You think you know the Constitution better than the Supreme Court Justices?

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    Re: Lawyers say Canadian-born Cruz eligible to run for president

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    §§ 215, 216 & 217: “Children born overseas to parents who are foreigners in that country do not become natural born citizens of that country, rather they are citizens of the country to which their parents owe allegiance.”
    this sounds like Cruz and McCain. Their parents - or mother, in Cruz' case - owed allegiance to the US.
    Really?
    Patty that does not say natural born Citizen of their country.
    It says citizen.

    I am not trying to be rude, but you do not have the knowledge or understanding of what is being discussed to make appropriate arguments.



    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    And by the way - things have changed since 1775.
    Not the meaning of the term natural born Citizen.
    It is not permissible for it to even mean the same thing as just "Citizen".
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    Re: Lawyers say Canadian-born Cruz eligible to run for president

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    You think you know the Constitution better than the Supreme Court Justices?
    You are not making any sense.
    When did the Supreme Court Justices ever rule on the meaning?

    Let me clue you in. They haven't.
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    Re: Lawyers say Canadian-born Cruz eligible to run for president

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    It's all over the net, just google it.

    Cruz's father, who was born in 1939 in Matanzas, Cuba,[19][20] as Robert T. Garrett of the Dallas Morning News has described, "suffered beatings and imprisonment for protesting the oppressive regime"[19][24] of dictator Fulgencio Batista. He fought for Fidel Castro in the Cuban Revolution[25][26] when he was 14 years old, but "didn't know Castro was a Communist.
    Ted Cruz - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    That made me laugh. There was little doubt that Castro had been a marxist and far leftist for nearly 10 years. His brother was a prominent member of the socialist PSP long before the revolution got underway. There is nothing like the revisionist history of some older Cubans though.
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    Re: Lawyers say Canadian-born Cruz eligible to run for president

    Good... because he is a loser and it would mean a Democrat victory.
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    Re: Lawyers say Canadian-born Cruz eligible to run for president

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    You mean like our right to abortion or our right to same-sex marriage?
    And what constitution is that in? Because it sure isn't in ours.
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    Re: Lawyers say Canadian-born Cruz eligible to run for president

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    And what constitution is that in? Because it sure isn't in ours.
    Just wait and see.

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    Re: Lawyers say Canadian-born Cruz eligible to run for president

    Quote Originally Posted by chad1389 View Post
    Lawyers say Canadian-born Cruz eligible to run for president | Fox News

    "While questions about Canadian-born Sen. Ted Cruz’s eligibility to be president haven’t drawn much attention, two former Justice Department lawyers have weighed in with a bipartisan verdict: Cruz, they say, is eligible to run for the White House. Neal Katyal, acting solicitor general in the Obama administration, and Paul Clemente, solicitor general in President George W. Bush’s administration, got out in front of the issue in a Harvard Law Review article. “There is no question that Senator Cruz has been a citizen from birth and is thus a ‘natural born Citizen’ within the meaning of the Constitution,” they wrote."

    "The law review article, “On the Meaning of ‘Natural Born Citizen”, asserts that the interpretation of the term was settled in Cruz’s favor as early as the 1700’s. The lawyers wrote that the Supreme Court has long used British common law and enactments of the First Congress for guidance on defining a “natural born citizen.” “Both confirm that the original meaning of the phrase ‘natural born Citizen’ includes persons born abroad who are citizens from birth based on the citizenship of a parent,” they wrote. They concluded someone like Cruz had “no need to go through naturalization proceedings,” making him eligible. Cruz is still weighing a presidential run.

    "Last month, Cruz addressed the citizenship issue during a question-and-answer session with moderator Sean Hannity, of Fox News, at the Conservative Political Action Conference. “I was born in Calgary. My mother was an American citizen by birth,” Cruz said. “Under federal law, that made me an American citizen by birth. The Constitution requires that you be a natural-born citizen.”


    Why was Obama given so much flack about this very thing? His mother was natural born as well. I'm not really understanding this. IMO, He wasn't born here naturally, he should not be allowed to run. Where his mom was born really shouldn't count. Where he was should.
    We elected a Kenyan so why not? At least Cruse is honest about his origins.

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