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    Re: Jeb's Email Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    If Hillary and Jeb have private email accounts then it's likely that a lot of other elected officials do too. So perhaps there should be an investigation in congress to see how many members have private accounts and if they're complying with the law, too. It would be interesting to know what goes on behind some of those congressional committees...especially the ones that use their investigative powers for political revenge rather than truth seeking.
    That is a red herring. Of course politicians and staffers have private email accounts, as well as just about every white collar employee in America. And yes, I am sure the majority of those people on occasion, or sometimes, use their private email account to discuss business matters. What they don't do is set up a server at home to exclusively route ALL their business emails to their server so as to hide all official business from their employer, and intentionally ignore their jobs federal security and contemporaneous archival requirements.

    Jeb Bush was not in the business of planning and discussing national security, intelligence, secret and/or confidential matters. He was not the nation's top diplomat. And his work in Florida on highway speed limits or grants for play ground equipment was not the target of high stakes secret information.

    Finally, Jeb Bush (like everyone else but Hillary) did conduct much of his business over his State email.

    It takes a degree of hutzpuh (or lunacy) to compare Hillary's acts with Jeb's...rather like someone telling us Hillary may have robbed a bank but they located Jeb, a Republican pick-pocket.

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    Re: Jeb's Email Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by maxparrish View Post
    That is a red herring. Of course politicians and staffers have private email accounts, as well as just about every white collar employee in America. And yes, I am sure the majority of those people on occasion, or sometimes, use their private email account to discuss business matters. What they don't do is set up a server at home to exclusively route ALL their business emails to their server so as to hide all official business from their employer, and intentionally ignore their jobs federal security and contemporaneous archival requirements.

    Jeb Bush was not in the business of planning and discussing national security, intelligence, secret and/or confidential matters. He was not the nation's top diplomat. And his work in Florida on highway speed limits or grants for play ground equipment was not the target of high stakes secret information.

    Finally, Jeb Bush (like everyone else but Hillary) did conduct much of his business over his State email.

    It takes a degree of hutzpuh (or lunacy) to compare Hillary's acts with Jeb's...rather like someone telling us Hillary may have robbed a bank but they located Jeb, a Republican pick-pocket.
    Yes, it's perfectly OK for a Bush to ignore the law.

    It's only wrong when a Clinton or an Obama does it
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    Re: Jeb's Email Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Yes, it's perfectly OK for a Bush to ignore the law.

    It's only wrong when a Clinton or an Obama does it
    "It takes a degree of hutzpuh (or lunacy) to compare Hillary's acts with Jeb's...rather like someone telling us Hillary may have robbed a bank but they located Jeb, a Republican pick-pocket."

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    Re: Jeb's Email Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by maxparrish View Post
    "It takes a degree of hutzpuh (or lunacy) to compare Hillary's acts with Jeb's...rather like someone telling us Hillary may have robbed a bank but they located Jeb, a Republican pick-pocket."
    Yes, when a Bush breaks the law, it's no big deal.

    PS- the word is "chutzpah"
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    Re: Jeb's Email Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by maxparrish View Post
    That is a red herring. Of course politicians and staffers have private email accounts, as well as just about every white collar employee in America. And yes, I am sure the majority of those people on occasion, or sometimes, use their private email account to discuss business matters. What they don't do is set up a server at home to exclusively route ALL their business emails to their server so as to hide all official business from their employer, and intentionally ignore their jobs federal security and contemporaneous archival requirements.

    Jeb Bush was not in the business of planning and discussing national security, intelligence, secret and/or confidential matters. He was not the nation's top diplomat. And his work in Florida on highway speed limits or grants for play ground equipment was not the target of high stakes secret information.

    Finally, Jeb Bush (like everyone else but Hillary) did conduct much of his business over his State email.

    It takes a degree of hutzpuh (or lunacy) to compare Hillary's acts with Jeb's...rather like someone telling us Hillary may have robbed a bank but they located Jeb, a Republican pick-pocket.
    Well, maybe it's not so much about the job in as much as it is how they followed the law. It's a law in Florida for all officials to turn over all their government related emails and that includes the governor. Apparently there were over 250K emails in Jeb's private email account...but he only turned in 55K as government related. Like Hillary, he was also allowed to decide which emails to save and which to delete...so if Jeb does grab the GOP nomination then it's only fair that he should have to face the same scrutiny as Hillary regarding what emails he deleted and why.

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    Re: Jeb's Email Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Well, maybe it's not so much about the job in as much as it is how they followed the law. It's a law in Florida for all officials to turn over all their government related emails and that includes the governor. Apparently there were over 250K emails in Jeb's private email account...but he only turned in 55K as government related. Like Hillary, he was also allowed to decide which emails to save and which to delete...so if Jeb does grab the GOP nomination then it's only fair that he should have to face the same scrutiny as Hillary regarding what emails he deleted and why.
    Agreed. But even better would be that neither of these two grab anything but a chair. And who thought it was ok for that level of government business to be conducted on personal e-mail. That **** needs to stop.
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    Re: Jeb's Email Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Agreed. But even better would be that neither of these two grab anything but a chair. And who thought it was ok for that level of government business to be conducted on personal e-mail. That **** needs to stop.
    I was going to say that if this email nonsense continues they both stand to lose their party nominations. But I agree, personal accounts for government business needs to stop at all levels. My husband works for the DoD and if he didn't follow the protocol for using government email accounts for government business he could lose his job.

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    Re: Jeb's Email Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    They can still have a personal email address, IMO, but they need to make it accessible to some kind of outside auditor.
    So you think Hillary should turn over her server for examination, to an outside auditor?

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    Re: Jeb's Email Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Yes, when a Bush breaks the law, it's no big deal.
    I see you are mirroring Nixon's excuse that he was not doing anything that Democrats had not done. Didn't work then, won't work now.

    PS- the word is "chutzpah"
    Nope, its not "the word". There are several words to choose from in the dictionary:

    Variants of CHUTZPAH

    chutz·pah also chutz·pa or hutz·pah or hutz·pa \ˈhu̇t-spə, ˈḵu̇t-, -(ˌ)spä\
    Apparently your inability to see the obvious false equivalency of the two email situations is matched by your inability to understand a well-known dictionary equivalency.

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    Re: Jeb's Email Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by maxparrish View Post
    I see you are mirroring Nixon's excuse that he was not doing anything that Democrats had not done. Didn't work then, won't work now.





    Apparently your inability to see the obvious false equivalency of the two email situations is equally matched by your inability to understand a well-known dictionary equivalency.
    NO, I get it...."different things are different"

    That's why it's bad when Hillary breaks the law but OK when Bush does it

    Because it's different
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