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    Re: Jeb's Email Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Well, there is one aspect you didn't take into consideration when comparing the 2. Jeb Bush hasn't been embroiled in a congressional investigation, where his emails represent crutial evidence, where as Hillary's emails are... an investigation that began long before she left office.
    Neither is enough to stop the email scandals from petering out.
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    Re: Jeb's Email Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Jeb and Hilary out of the 2016 race? Man, that would be so awesome.
    Hard to say. Hillary wouldn't be a wonderful president, but she wouldn't be a terrible one, either. Jeb would absolutely be a nightmare.
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    Re: Jeb's Email Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    Neither is enough to stop the email scandals from petering out.
    We'll have to see if Hillary signed that State Department seperation form or not. If she did, she's dead in the water.

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    Re: Jeb's Email Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    We'll have to see if Hillary signed that State Department seperation form or not. If she did, she's dead in the water.
    She probably didn't, or (less likely), she may have signed it and no one can recover it now.
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    Re: Jeb's Email Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    She probably didn't, or (less likely), she may have signed it and no one can recover it now.
    That wouldn't surprise me a bit with this Administration. They are by far the most secretive and "do whatever the hell they want" Administration in at least my lifetime.

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    Re: Jeb's Email Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    Hard to say. Hillary wouldn't be a wonderful president, but she wouldn't be a terrible one, either. Jeb would absolutely be a nightmare.
    Scratch that, reverse it.
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    Re: Jeb's Email Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    So he says he's disclosing everything that's related to government business, but the truth is that no one else has any way to confirm it:



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    Was this illegal, against the rules, or considered improper in Florida at the time.

    Frankly, doing it that way is very stupid, now. In the 90's email was just becoming popular, and in the early 2000's we were only learning about the ramifications, so the parallel is far less than perfect
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    Re: Jeb's Email Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    I'm not dismissing the server issue, or the questions around Clinton's actions. Just pointing out that the hypocrisy from the scandal mongers is quite telling.

    Looks like this may become another Benghazi.
    There is no hypocrisy among 'scandal mongers'. Unless you can show the state of Florida has a law that says all official communication must be transmitted via state email servers there is no violation. What IS happening is the mindless democrat sycophants are desperate to find a way to pretend what Hillary did was not that big a deal. IF you can show the state of Florida has such a law, then that would be yet another reason why voters should not select Jeb Bush and in fact he should be disqualified by the GOP from running. IF there is such a law.

    Of course...IF that turns out to be the case, democrats will fall all over themselves defending Jeb because really...what difference does it make?

    How many times have we heard democrats say they have reviewed all the official email and records on Benghazi and determined there was nothing untoward or inappropriate? On the Fast and Furious crap? On the IRS scandals? Now we find out that the reason why they found nothing is because they were given nothing.

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    Re: Jeb's Email Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Jeb Bush is the only candidate that would cause me to vote for Hillary Clinton.
    and hillary is the candidate who would cause me to vote for jeb
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    Re: Jeb's Email Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    Even if he did behave within the law (which I'm not knowledgeable enough about Florida state law to say), his handling of emails isn't terribly different from Clinton's.
    Since facts should be the pursuit of all:

    - What kinds of agency records are subject to the Public Records Act?

    (1) Personal e-mail

    The Florida Supreme Court has ruled that private e-mail stored in government computers does not automatically become a public record by virtue of that storage. State v. City of Clearwater, 863 So. 2d 149 (Fla. 2003). "Just as an agency cannot circumvent the Public Records Act by allowing a private entity to maintain physical custody of documents that fall within the definition of 'public records,' . . . private documents cannot be deemed public records solely by virtue of their placement on an agency-owned computer." Id. at 154. The Court cautioned, however, that the case before it did not involve e-mails "that may have been isolated by a government employee whose job required him or her to locate employee misuse of government computers." Id. at 151n.2. Cf. Bent v. State, No. 4D10-2726 (Fla. 4th DCA filed September 29, 2010) (recordings of personal telephone calls between minors in jail awaiting trial and third parties made by sheriff's office are not public records when contents of the phone calls do not involve criminal activity or a security breach). Compare Miami-Dade County v. Professional Law Enforcement Association, 997 So. 2d 1289 (Fla. 3d DCA 2009) (personal flight log of pilots paid by county which are required as part of pilot's administrative duties are distinguishable from personal e-mails in City of Clearwater case and are subject to disclosure). Cf. Grapski v. Machen, Case No. 01-2005-CA-4005 J (Fla. 8th Cir. Ct. May 9, 2006), affirmed per curiam, 949 So. 2d 202 (Fla. 1st DCA 2007) (spam or bulk mail received by a public agency does not necessarily constitute a public record).

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