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    Re: U.S. admiral raises alarm over Russian military threat

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Its not the people who are into defense that are worried over US Hegemony.

    But most of the planet is taking Note of Irans Hegemony.....which is about to be put in check. So they know where they stand on the food chain.
    Food chain!!!! Such predatory language, but it's been obvious all along. And no, of course US hegemony isn't troubling to service personel.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Monte, your view is entirely cynical and avoids an entire aspect of history that doesn't fit your preferred view. The US determined a very long time ago that open sea lanes and free trade accrued to not only our benefit, but to the benefit of the entire globe. So yes, we do benefit from the effort to maintain such things, but were the rest of the world to embrace the same objectives, they too would greatly benefit. The effort by Russia and China, and others, is to simply cheat the natural progression of such a system with agressive short cuts to get there sooner, and at a significant cost to others nation states. That's the difference, and it's pretty clear even if you choose to ignore it.
    No, it's not clear. And China isn't interested in closing sea lanes, they're even creating a new one as we speak in Central America. It's just that there's at least some that they want to control! And that's the rub for America, but, nobody remains in control forever.
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    Re: U.S. admiral raises alarm over Russian military threat

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Don't expect much support of your notion from the Left side of the house.
    Obama has proposed I believe 595 billion for defence spending...

    Russia spends between 70-80 billion.... Are they really the threat you think they are?

    Russia has 10-18 foreign bases in the world.

    You guys have over 500...

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    Re: U.S. admiral raises alarm over Russian military threat

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Nah....they don't do an assessment on whats Unrealistic......they are dealing with what has to be met now.
    And they're short by $58 billion dollars? Not too surprising, though, considering we're involved in six or seven dangerous hot spots at the moment!

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    Re: U.S. admiral raises alarm over Russian military threat

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You seemed to agree that NATO inclusion is a Ukrainian ambition.
    I do not believe i ever said otherwise. After all it was Ukraine that applied and Nato that stalled till they withdrew the application. in other words Putin had no reason to think that Nato wanrwanted the country as a member.

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    Re: U.S. admiral raises alarm over Russian military threat

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    And they're short by $58 billion dollars? Not too surprising, though, considering we're involved in six or seven dangerous hot spots at the moment!
    Heya Lady P. That's what they are saying. All due to Sequestration......don't forget we also send our Military to provide all that Humanitarian, Disaster relief, and emergency response too.

    Maybe all those talking about we are not the policeman of the world.....should also carry that thought on how we can't Try and Save everybody too.
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    Re: U.S. admiral raises alarm over Russian military threat

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I do not believe i ever said otherwise. After all it was Ukraine that applied and Nato that stalled till they withdrew the application. in other words Putin had no reason to think that Nato wanrwanted the country as a member.
    But Ukraine does want membership, and Putin will resist it, and I don't blame him.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: U.S. admiral raises alarm over Russian military threat

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    There are plenty of parallels. At the time the US was able to push the USSR into financial oblivion just to keep up with US / NATO activity, going into Afghanistan was the nail in the coffin for the USSR.

    These days we seem to have a bit of a conundrum. Between Obama's inexperience and Bush 43's actions we have dug ourselves into one hell of a mess. We are being challenged because these other nations can see what we have done, and more importantly what we have spent to get such lackluster results.

    Think about it this way...

    Afghanistan is still not all that stable, with plenty of the nation not really under anyone's control. Pakistan happened to be where we found the most wanted man from 9/11. Iran is still not all that interested in abiding by the NPT agreement (or any other agreement.) Israel and the Palestinians are in a continual state of being the right shot away from a real mess, and it appears Israel wants to engage Iran. Syria collapsed into a multiple way long term civil war with no end in sight. The results in Egypt's change of power are highly questionable, the results from Libya's collapse are even worse. Iraq after years of war engaged in for dubious reasons was left in the hands of a weak polarizing ideological government backed by a run at the first sight of the enemy military, so now a sizable portion of that nation is no longer under their control. ISIS formed being able to take advantage of both Iraq's weak state and Syria's fiasco. And that is just really the last decade, and the entire region seems worse for it all.

    Now, consider all the money the US has spent on the military and influence in the region when looking over these results. It is no wonder that Russia is baiting us into spending even more on our military simply because they know how ideologically divided, tired of war, and broke from it all we truly are. Well some of us, we have plenty on the right taking the bait suggesting spending even more than we already do simply because the Russians are giving us a taste of what we gave them 30-40 years ago.

    Somewhere some historian paying attention would be laughing if it were not so sad what little we have learned from then to now, with damn near bipartisan stupidity.


    Stupidity indeed. Putin and the rest of the world have seen the spread pf ISIS since the pull out of Iraq. Too few people realize thew implications of a the fact most of Al-Qaeda/Taliban were found in Pakistan, a government the US arms while they harbor terrorists by deliberate inaction. Putin has known US affairs since the cold war..

    One of Putin's jobs was to coordinate efforts with the Stasi to track down and recruit foreigners in Dresden, usually those who were enrolled at the Dresden University of Technology, in the hopes of sending them undercover in the United States.
    Vladimir Putin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    He began his career as a 'false cover operative' in East Germany when Barrack Obama was beginning his career as a community organizer.
    ""You know, when we sell to other countries, even if they're allies -- you never know about an ally. An ally can turn."
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    Re: U.S. admiral raises alarm over Russian military threat

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Food chain!!!! Such predatory language, but it's been obvious all along. And no, of course US hegemony isn't troubling to service personel.
    Well until they can prove they can play like Charles Barclay and become civilized.....they got no room to mouth off.

    But I notice you don't say much about others predatory language.....Only the US, eh Monte.

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    Re: U.S. admiral raises alarm over Russian military threat

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yeah DS. I picked up some of that too.



    The New Wild West.....




    The Arctic, long considered an almost worthless backwater, is primed to become one of the most important regions in the world as its ice melts over the next few decades. Unlike every other maritime area in the world, there is no overarching legal treaty governing the Arctic. Instead, the Arctic Council, made up of Canada, Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway, Russia, Sweden, and the U.S., oversees and coordinates policy.

    But the Arctic Council has no regulatory power. The countries only use the Council to communicate on policy and research and each member state is free to pursue its own policies within their declared Arctic boundaries.

    According to a presentation by the Council of Foreign Relations, the Arctic is of primary strategic significance to the five bordering Arctic Ocean states — the U.S. (red), Canada (orange), Russia (grey), Norway (blue), and Denmark (green).....snip~





    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/milita...130246417.html

    According to this.....the US is lagging behind.


    Note that the overwhelming land mass and shoe line belong to Canada and Greenland. About four times all the others combined I would say
    ""You know, when we sell to other countries, even if they're allies -- you never know about an ally. An ally can turn."
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