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    Re: U.S. admiral raises alarm over Russian military threat

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    What's this don??

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    US spy plane in ‘Top Gun’ game of chicken over Russian air space day after MH17 shot down

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    I was discussing China's Air Defense Identification Zone. One can't assert automatically that China is legally correct in demanding compliance with its notification request. The zone lacks legitimacy, as it extends beyond China's territorial waters.

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    Re: U.S. admiral raises alarm over Russian military threat

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    I was discussing China's Air Defense Identification Zone. One can't assert automatically that China is legally correct in demanding compliance with its notification request. The zone lacks legitimacy, as it extends beyond China's territorial waters.
    And my post that you responded to first was to make the point that the US has often flown provocative missions both in and threateningly close to others airspace. It's the hypocrisy at work again.
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    Re: U.S. admiral raises alarm over Russian military threat

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    Yeah DS. I picked up some of that too.



    The New Wild West.....




    The Arctic, long considered an almost worthless backwater, is primed to become one of the most important regions in the world as its ice melts over the next few decades. Unlike every other maritime area in the world, there is no overarching legal treaty governing the Arctic. Instead, the Arctic Council, made up of Canada, Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway, Russia, Sweden, and the U.S., oversees and coordinates policy.

    But the Arctic Council has no regulatory power. The countries only use the Council to communicate on policy and research and each member state is free to pursue its own policies within their declared Arctic boundaries.

    According to a presentation by the Council of Foreign Relations, the Arctic is of primary strategic significance to the five bordering Arctic Ocean states — the U.S. (red), Canada (orange), Russia (grey), Norway (blue), and Denmark (green).....snip~





    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/milita...130246417.html

    According to this.....the US is lagging behind.
    Why is the ice melting?
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    Re: U.S. admiral raises alarm over Russian military threat

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Why is the ice melting?
    According to the scientific consensus, climate change is playing the largest role with some contribution from natural variability.

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    Re: U.S. admiral raises alarm over Russian military threat

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    And my post that you responded to first was to make the point that the US has often flown provocative missions both in and threateningly close to others airspace. It's the hypocrisy at work again.
    Yeah so what.....you haven't figured out the differences Monte? Note how when Russia, China and some others go about this. Ever notice how what they are flying over and into always becomes a part of them? Another piece of ground gained.

    Now note how when we do it.....do you see any New States added to the US? Does that help yet Monte?

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    Re: U.S. admiral raises alarm over Russian military threat

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Why is the ice melting?

    Well.....I think a Polar Shift has something to do with it. But I wouldn't put it past the Russians to throw some heaters under the Ice. Just sayin.




    Russia, meanwhile, has reinvigorated its process of building its naval operations on its northern coast.

    "Russia, the only non-NATO littoral Arctic state, has made a military buildup in the Arctic a strategic priority, restoring Soviet-era airfields and ports and marshaling naval assets," the CFR presentation explains. "In late 2013, President Vladimir Putin instructed his military leadership to pay particular attention to the Arctic, saying Russia needed 'every lever for the protection of its security and national interests there.' He also ordered the creation of a new strategic military command in the Russian Arctic by the end of 2014."

    CFR notes that while most experts dismiss the prospects for armed aggression in the Arctic, "some defense analysts and academics assert that territorial disputes and a competition for resources have primed the Arctic for a new Cold War."....snip~

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    Re: U.S. admiral raises alarm over Russian military threat

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    And my post that you responded to first was to make the point that the US has often flown provocative missions both in and threateningly close to others airspace. It's the hypocrisy at work again.
    Why not just raise the Russia-U.S. issue where there have been some disputes? Under the Open Skies Treaty, a degree of surveillance by unarmed planes is permissible with appropriate notification (Open Skies Treaty).

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    Re: U.S. admiral raises alarm over Russian military threat

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    According to the scientific consensus, climate change is playing the largest role with some contribution from natural variability.
    Yeah, it was a rhetorical question. Most on the right don't buy it unless it advances some agenda.
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    Re: U.S. admiral raises alarm over Russian military threat

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Why not just raise the Russia-U.S. issue where there have been some disputes? Under the Open Skies Treaty, a degree of surveillance by unarmed planes is permissible with appropriate notification (Open Skies Treaty).
    The bolded.
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    Re: U.S. admiral raises alarm over Russian military threat

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well.....I think a Polar Shift has something to do with it. But I wouldn't put it past the Russians to throw some heaters under the Ice. Just sayin.




    Russia, meanwhile, has reinvigorated its process of building its naval operations on its northern coast.

    "Russia, the only non-NATO littoral Arctic state, has made a military buildup in the Arctic a strategic priority, restoring Soviet-era airfields and ports and marshaling naval assets," the CFR presentation explains. "In late 2013, President Vladimir Putin instructed his military leadership to pay particular attention to the Arctic, saying Russia needed 'every lever for the protection of its security and national interests there.' He also ordered the creation of a new strategic military command in the Russian Arctic by the end of 2014."

    CFR notes that while most experts dismiss the prospects for armed aggression in the Arctic, "some defense analysts and academics assert that territorial disputes and a competition for resources have primed the Arctic for a new Cold War."....snip~
    Yes, I'm aware of Russia's military build up, China's too. It's no surprise either. Both have made themselves clear on their view of American hegemony. Better move over and make room.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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